BA pain is only a myth!

hey bros,

Recently made pretty wide research behind all factors causing pain after injection while looking for some explanation behind my home brewed Test. Enanthate pain, and find that BA could be one of the causes. So decided to mix BA with pure oil and inject it to see what happens.

First mixed 5% BA and the rest Oil. After injection was zero pain- totally zero!

Second mxiture i have tried was 10% BA with all the rest being oil. Injected, little discomfort when injecting but guess what?- zero pain 3 days after. Nothing at all...

Inspired by those findings i decided to go even further and try 20% BA. The mixture was pretty thin when mixed with oil. Had some pretty strong smell. When injecting it had some little sting but nothing to compare with Melanotan2 sting you can feel in every injection. 5 hours after injection no pain at all. After 12 hours some little discomfort occur but nothing to be called pain. 18 hours after injection the discomfort reached its peak but i could hit the injection spot hard with my hand and no drastic pain- in fact you can never feel something if you do not remember that this spot was used for injection. 36 Hours after injection all is back to normal, no dicomfort anymore. So even at 20% BA the pain is nothing to be called REAL PAIN!

interesting... i always put the pain down to clumsy technique... the more you move that sucker around in there the more tissue damage your causing...

I think the pain is caused by having tiny crystals of test in the mixture. Even human pharm grade causes some pain, so that would explain it for me. Homebrew would more than likely have more larger crystals left in solution, thus the extra pain we get. Logical, no?

BigZ said:

I think the pain is caused by having tiny crystals of test in the mixture. Even human pharm grade causes some pain, so that would explain it for me. Homebrew would more than likely have more larger crystals left in solution, thus the extra pain we get. Logical, no?

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I agree totally!!!! Very interesting fact with injecting straight BA!! I have several vials of Cyp that is crashed that I have to bring back to solution every inject. About every 3rd shot with that stuff and its PIP HELL!!! No matter the technique or preparation. I just cross my fingers and grin and bare it!!!

Dude..!
Anything above 4% B/A you start destroying the tissue at the injection site!
Causing it to become necrotic.
I appreciate research and self expirementation but not with ideas like that, Pay attention to those sites your risk is not over.

Do a search on carbolic acid. It's part of the test e ester process that is supposed to be cleansed from the powder before distribution. There was a major problem with test e powder coming out of china a few years back.

viciouscycle said:

Do a search on carbolic acid. It's part of the test e ester process that is supposed to be cleansed from the powder before distribution. There was a major problem with test e powder coming out of china a few years back.

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Shit!! Forgot about that....Could be the culprit....So many variables though

GreatGunz said:

Dude..!
Anything above 4% B/A you start destroying the tissue at the injection site!
Causing it to become necrotic.
I appreciate research and self expirementation but not with ideas like that, Pay attention to those sites your risk is not over.

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i agree, BA not causing pain HA, there is a reason most pharmaceutical companies keep stuff at like 2%

csuperman said:

i agree, BA not causing pain HA, there is a reason most pharmaceutical companies keep stuff at like 2%

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Do not forget good old Paki sustanon with 10% BA
i do not argue that 5 % + is really excessive and not needed at all in most cases but just want to explain that this is not the main causation behind pain after injection (as opposed to widespread opinion that BA is the one of the main cause)

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BigZ said:

I think the pain is caused by having tiny crystals of test in the mixture. Even human pharm grade causes some pain, so that would explain it for me. Homebrew would more than likely have more larger crystals left in solution, thus the extra pain we get. Logical, no?

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thats true, but do not forget that in most cases those micro-crystals are below 5 micron size, which should not cause irritation in tissue (micro-crystalized Desma winstrol is around 5 micron size)

Micro-crystallization shouldn't cause this but to those more sensitive to PIP in general, it cant be completely ignored either.

I am extremely sensitive to new oil/gear/any damn thing I haven't used ever.....Fuckin sucks!!!

Only time I get any pip is when I cram more test e into 1ml with just BA and BB, but thats a brave experiment A311, there are so many variables to pip, as powder impurity, low grade BA or BB, improper technique in mixing, but if you can ever find a really clean powered and USP oil and BA/BB, and keep your concentrations in the norm, you'll forget the meaning of pip.

MonkeyWrench said:

Only time I get any pip is when I cram more test e into 1ml with just BA and BB, but thats a brave experiment A311, there are so many variables to pip, as powder impurity, low grade BA or BB, improper technique in mixing, but if you can ever find a really clean powered and USP oil and BA/BB, and keep your concentrations in the norm, you'll forget the meaning of pip.

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I would soooooooo love to know how an entire month feels like without my ass hurtin.......FUCKK!!!!

I gotta go with Monkey on this one.

Working toward that goal for sure bruthas.....

this sounds weird but ive been experimenting with pip and bb, holy fuckin pip from hell with not enough bb, anyone heard of this shit?

slaughter15 said:

this sounds weird but ive been experimenting with pip and bb, holy fuckin pip from hell with not enough bb, anyone heard of this shit?

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with which products did you check this?

ChemMan said:

with which products did you check this?

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It was with prop, my arm felt like it had been kicked by a horse for about a week