short ester vs long esters

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Short ester gear vs long esters which do you prefer ? Seems alot easier to come off short one become you wouldn't have esters floating around in your body while trying to do a pct. Personly I love short acting gear, but I guess if your trying to gain mass weight long esters are need, thoughts?
 
I like the short esters. They kick in quicker and don't cause as much bloat or water retention. Plus I love injecting oil into my muscles! ;) With short esters you get to pin ED or EOD vs. twice a week. My next cycle will be Tren A. I haven't decided whether to run Test P or E with it yet, but leaning toward P.
 
It's a toss up for me. I like long esters for test, but short esters for tren. Probably just because of how my body reacts to them.
 
freakinthegym said:
Short ester gear vs long esters which do you prefer ? Seems alot easier to come off short one become you wouldn't have esters floating around in your body while trying to do a pct. Personly I love short acting gear, but I guess if your trying to gain mass weight long esters are need, thoughts?
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hands down short esters! Love propionate over all other testosterones. Plus if any sides pop up like gyno issues , you can stop and remedy the situation faster or at least have it out of ur system faster. And Less bloat with propionate for me then the longer ester testosterones!

So im a short ester guy across the board i guess, tren ace as well though ive not used tren enanthate, i just know i would prefer the dosing ed or eod and feeling like my levels are more stable.

And I do believe the volume of oil with ed or eod short ester shots helps with muscle facia stretching like synthol somewhat, the downside i guess is scar tissue
 
DefMetalLifter said:
I like the short esters. They kick in quicker and don't cause as much bloat or water retention. Plus I love injecting oil into my muscles! ;) With short esters you get to pin ED or EOD vs. twice a week. My next cycle will be Tren A. I haven't decided whether to run Test P or E with it yet, but leaning toward P.
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Test Prop and Tren A are a match made in heaven,
I like both as well, all depends on what your after. For me if its a long cycle (16-20 weeks) Ill run long Esters, Short 8-10 weeks short esters, but Also I like dropping the long say by week 10-12 go into a short for the last 8 weeks. Hell like I said I LIKE EM ALL!!
 
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MonkeyWrench said:
Test Prop and Tren A are a match made in heaven,
I like both as well, all depends on what your after. For me if its a long cycle (16-20 weeks) Ill run long Esters, Short 8-10 weeks short esters, but Also I like dropping the long say by week 10-12 go into a short for the last 8 weeks. Hell like I said I LIKE EM ALL!!
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Haha. Yea I am looking forward to that match made in heaven combo like you wouldn't believe. I think about it everyday. haha. What is a good dosage combo for those? I was thinking 500/500...
 
DefMetalLifter said:
Haha. Yea I am looking forward to that match made in heaven combo like you wouldn't believe. I think about it everyday. haha. What is a good dosage combo for those? I was thinking 500/500...
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Well, I started Test Prop 100mg /Tren 100mg EOD, but had prolactin issues, got that under control dropped the Test P to 50 mg EOD and then Tren A 100mg ED, then Tren A ED just felt much better, but damn get ready for insomnia and waking up soaking wet in sweat. But damn get ready to be transformed, I ran 8 weeks, it was great. I plan on running it again sometime in May right before summer hits.

Most will say keep the test lower than tren, it did seem to help with some of my issues, but tren 500mg-800mg a week was great. Id work up to those dose for sure though, my lifting partner had almost zero sides, I had almost all of them. So, case by case, and with Test P and Tren A, you can really adjust fast, a good thing if sides are hitting hard.
 
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yeah theres no way on GODs green earth i would dose my tren ace higher than my Testosterone propionate, but i do keep hearing how it works great that way with less sides, but still im not chancing it! I do double the propionate to my tren, so 200mg eod propionate and 100mg eod tren ace works great for me.
 
MonkeyWrench said:
Well, I started Test Prop 100mg /Tren 100mg EOD, but had prolactin issues, got that under control dropped the Test P to 50 mg EOD and then Tren A 100mg ED, then Tren A ED just felt much better, but damn get ready for insomnia and waking up soaking wet in sweat. But damn get ready to be transformed, I ran 8 weeks, it was great. I plan on running it again sometime in May right before summer hits.

Most will say keep the test lower than tren, it did seem to help with some of my issues, but tren 500mg-800mg a week was great. Id work up to those dose for sure though, my lifting partner had almost zero sides, I had almost all of them. So, case by case, and with Test P and Tren A, you can really adjust fast, a good thing if sides are hitting hard.
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Ok. Ya that is nice to be able to adjust doses quickly with those short esters. That is what I hear if you run test higher you will get more sides, but if you run it lower than you run into penis issues.

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Presser said:
yeah theres no way on GODs green earth i would dose my tren ace higher than my Testosterone propionate, but i do keep hearing how it works great that way with less sides, but still im not chancing it! I do double the propionate to my tren, so 200mg eod propionate and 100mg eod tren ace works great for me.
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It sounds like I need to find what works best for me with dosing test higher or lower than tren.
 
Yeah, Id say the pinning is not so fun, but after a while I guess I dont care, I was pinning ED, the Tren is that good ha ha, I was like a crack head in the bathroom.
 
700prop
1400 tren ace
700 mmasterone eat combo and dosages I've ever done

short esters all the way for me. You see changes by the day. And can control sides better.
 
I'm lost mrbigz ? You do that much tren or did I misread something lol
 
i like both...i like long esters due to the high mg's i'm pinning it's easier to get those mg's in...but short esters = instant results which is what we all want
 
You read right, I'm doing 1400 mgs week tren and 700 mg test 700 mgmasterone
 
More tren the freakier more developed you will become its the secret of the pros no one tells you. I've been speaking to some top level guys around the globe and tren is king. More tren brings the freak factor. Some guys run 2100 mg a week. It has to be tren base and tren ace. The enthate is just a waist, to many side effects. Acetate makes changes by the day. Brings out the animal, tren and eq are number one supplements. Both combined are the best combo.
1000mgs eq
1000+ mgs tren ace
you will see your body mutate, and if you can add in gh igf1 and slin, your talking pro phisique. I'm currently 220 lbs 9%bf and gaining. I'm waiting for more gh so I can run 10 iu a day and mutate on slin.

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Longer you run tren the better. As long as you can handle the mental sides.
 
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