first brew experience - 2 issues

Just thought Id share my experience with my fist attempt and ask for any hints and opinions you might have.

I made two batches: a 250mg/ml test E with 18% BB and 2% BA which has been holding steadily. and a TNE at 100mg/ml with 20% guaiacol 18%BB and 2% BA. This one crashed very quickly, few hours after filtering crystals started showing. In both cases I used safflower oil as carrier.

So basically, the first issue is the crashed TNE whishc surprises me quite a bit as I was expecting the 20% guaiacol to be strong enough to hold it. I'm thinking of heating the vials, pulling the oils back to a beaker and diluting it further with more guaiacol and BB. Another mistake I realize at this stage is that I could have left the solution cool down and filter it afterwards and all of this could have been avoided.. Any ideas on this?

Another thing I noticed, which is more disturbing and happened with nearly all vials overall is that there are tiny pieces of rubber on the bottom of the vials. Not too many but there should be none. And even most of the test E vials have them. I am assuming that I achieved this as I was filtering the oil with syringe filters and may have been moving too much with the needle stuck through the rubber stopper. It wold probably be a better idea to first filter the product into 1 big sterile vial and transfer it to individual vials from that after. Has this ever happened to any of you?

Anyway, that was my first and last time using syringe filters. Took me hours to get it through them and had swollen fingers after. major pain. Have bottle tops on the way and will try to sort all of this mess over this weekend.

Another lesson learned with how the TNE turned out is that I will only do a simple 100mg/ml tren A. Was looking for 150-200mg/ml recipes but seeing how the TNE turned out Id rather be safe this time.

What oil did you use for the TNE. How high of a temperature did you bring the tne in solvent too and how long. Rubber in the vials wow. How hot was it when you filtered it? That's just wierd.

I used safflower oil for everything. tren A @ 100mg/ml and test E @ 250mg/ml hold perfectly with 2%Ba 18%BB and just safflower. For 250mg/ml mast E I used the same BA and BB but just in case used 40% of carrier as EO, holding fine too. Probably would have held with just safflower too.

The TNE was a major failure. First I used 20% guaiacol (thought this would def hold it) with same BA, BB as the above but it started crashing very quickly. After a few days I tried dissolving it further with more guaiacol and BB but still it didn't even blend properly in the beaker. Tried higher temperatures and longer periods but still would blend and it smelt horrible because od the high guaiacol content, in the end I just dumped it. Not sure what the temp was or what time exactly, I was going gradually from lower temps and nothing seemed to have worked.

As for the pieces of rubber I think this happened while I was filtering the brew through the syringe filter into the vials. I think I was moing too much with the needle in the rubber. Anyway, never ever will I use syringe filters again. Did the second batch with bottle top and that went 1000x better, no sore fingers and no rubber in the vials lol.

DaveYD said:

I used safflower oil for everything. tren A @ 100mg/ml and test E @ 250mg/ml hold perfectly with 2%Ba 18%BB and just safflower. For 250mg/ml mast E I used the same BA and BB but just in case used 40% of carrier as EO, holding fine too. Probably would have held with just safflower too.

The TNE was a major failure. First I used 20% guaiacol (thought this would def hold it) with same BA, BB as the above but it started crashing very quickly. After a few days I tried dissolving it further with more guaiacol and BB but still it didn't even blend properly in the beaker. Tried higher temperatures and longer periods but still would blend and it smelt horrible because od the high guaiacol content, in the end I just dumped it. Not sure what the temp was or what time exactly, I was going gradually from lower temps and nothing seemed to have worked.

As for the pieces of rubber I think this happened while I was filtering the brew through the syringe filter into the vials. I think I was moing too much with the needle in the rubber. Anyway, never ever will I use syringe filters again. Did the second batch with bottle top and that went 1000x better, no sore fingers and no rubber in the vials lol.

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i have seen TNE is oil before, and used it, and it was always crashed, and i would have to heat it in microwave very briefly, then shake it, until it dissolved, then i would shoot it, and it worked absolutely great! and by the time my next shot was due it would be crashed again, and look like a thick slushy mess, but i would just heat and use and again it always worked great