HackTwat
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
I came across this discussion about TRESTOLONE and thought to myself, "Has anyone here at Musclechemistry used it?" So, has any of you used TRESTOLONE??? Whats all the talk about and such??? Its new to me and I'm curious to say the least......
Austin311
Unfortunately, Both debates cant for certain be proved or disproved. Ment is a strange compound this way, and in many ways we as a community still know very little about it, compared to our standard, Test, Tren, Nandrolone, and most common orals. We do know that its androgenic and anabolic properties are very appealing though, for example look how much stronger it is to compounds below, which we all regard as some of the strongest and most effective AAS we know about & use.
Androgenic/Anabolic
Testosterone - 100:100
Tren Ace - 500:500
Cheque Drop - 250:590
M1T - 175:1400
Superdrol - 20:400
Halo - 850:1900
Nandrolone - 37:125
Dbol - 50:200
Anadrol - 45:320
Ment - 650:2300
Nothing comes close to it besides Halo in terms of Androgenic and Anabolic properties, and we all know how well halo can work for strength, physique recomp, cutting. But in perspective, Test has a 100:100 ratio and will put 10 times more mass on you than Halo. Yet its ratios look considerably weaker than halo? This is because both compounds break down in the body completely different, causing very different degeneration and conversion to the actual hormone.
MENT in our case, is different, because of the chemical make up, Its a 19nor Nandrolone derivative, but also poses a 17B chain rather than a 17aa like anadrol. This gives it some bioavailability,but not near as well as traditional orals like anadrol. This does however protect the structure during IM administration, allowing for more hormone to survive breakdown and convert to its androgenic and anabolic properties. In this case, even the smallest of doses of say 10mg can suppress LH and FH as if you have been on a common multiple compound cycle for over 2 weeks. ( if you think test will give you impotency, ment will ensure impotency ) This was a main reason why it was first explored as a practical use for male birth control.
Injectable Ment needs only 20-50mg eod to see results, whereas tren another commonly used strong 19nor needs 75-100 eod to see effective results. Like tren higher doses can lead to an increase in unfavorable sides. Like tren, some users are very sensitive to the estrogenic and progestational affects which could cause much more sever sides and or negation of sides, this is on a user to user basis. Im sure youve heard about people saying there too sensitive to tren, or they just cant handle the compound, while others cant get enough of it, and love it.
Arguably the same thought process can be applied to a user to user experience with ment, But amplify the strength and androgenic/anabolic properties nearly 4 times! If proper E2 and progestational affects are not controlled, expect all the affects that come with this, Increased blood pressure, Gyno, Prostate enlargement, Acne, Fatigue, Sleeplessness. The list goes on. As a precaution since most users do have a range of sides from tren, you should expect ment to be the same but with an amplified risk. Proper precautions should be taken until you know how you do react, like tren. A progestational antagonist like Caber should be used, as well as Aromatase Inhibitor like Aromasin, or something as strong as leto, keeping levels stable with ment is also an added issue because of the 17b alteration rather than the traditional 17a, It will not only be absorbed through plasma but through the liver as well.
What we can expect, if we can control the side affects, will rival tren's ability to retain LBM while calorie deficit, and Nandrolones ability to put pronounced muscle mass, all the while keeping you relatively dry like tren.
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]What I'm getting at, is we still don't know enough about the compound to argue about its perceived and theroritized potential to argue about its use. You could be a "Non Responder" or transdermally, your body is needing more of a dose because of a stronger metabolite resistance to liver bioavailability. Injecting may be better route for you, or even increasing the dose. Maybe even staying at the current level and allow some time for blood levels to rise and make another assessment in a couple weeks. Unfortunately with MENT nothing is cut and dry until we understand it 100%.[/FONT]
There it is.....Hmmmmmmm???.....
Austin311
Unfortunately, Both debates cant for certain be proved or disproved. Ment is a strange compound this way, and in many ways we as a community still know very little about it, compared to our standard, Test, Tren, Nandrolone, and most common orals. We do know that its androgenic and anabolic properties are very appealing though, for example look how much stronger it is to compounds below, which we all regard as some of the strongest and most effective AAS we know about & use.
Androgenic/Anabolic
Testosterone - 100:100
Tren Ace - 500:500
Cheque Drop - 250:590
M1T - 175:1400
Superdrol - 20:400
Halo - 850:1900
Nandrolone - 37:125
Dbol - 50:200
Anadrol - 45:320
Ment - 650:2300
Nothing comes close to it besides Halo in terms of Androgenic and Anabolic properties, and we all know how well halo can work for strength, physique recomp, cutting. But in perspective, Test has a 100:100 ratio and will put 10 times more mass on you than Halo. Yet its ratios look considerably weaker than halo? This is because both compounds break down in the body completely different, causing very different degeneration and conversion to the actual hormone.
MENT in our case, is different, because of the chemical make up, Its a 19nor Nandrolone derivative, but also poses a 17B chain rather than a 17aa like anadrol. This gives it some bioavailability,but not near as well as traditional orals like anadrol. This does however protect the structure during IM administration, allowing for more hormone to survive breakdown and convert to its androgenic and anabolic properties. In this case, even the smallest of doses of say 10mg can suppress LH and FH as if you have been on a common multiple compound cycle for over 2 weeks. ( if you think test will give you impotency, ment will ensure impotency ) This was a main reason why it was first explored as a practical use for male birth control.
Injectable Ment needs only 20-50mg eod to see results, whereas tren another commonly used strong 19nor needs 75-100 eod to see effective results. Like tren higher doses can lead to an increase in unfavorable sides. Like tren, some users are very sensitive to the estrogenic and progestational affects which could cause much more sever sides and or negation of sides, this is on a user to user basis. Im sure youve heard about people saying there too sensitive to tren, or they just cant handle the compound, while others cant get enough of it, and love it.
Arguably the same thought process can be applied to a user to user experience with ment, But amplify the strength and androgenic/anabolic properties nearly 4 times! If proper E2 and progestational affects are not controlled, expect all the affects that come with this, Increased blood pressure, Gyno, Prostate enlargement, Acne, Fatigue, Sleeplessness. The list goes on. As a precaution since most users do have a range of sides from tren, you should expect ment to be the same but with an amplified risk. Proper precautions should be taken until you know how you do react, like tren. A progestational antagonist like Caber should be used, as well as Aromatase Inhibitor like Aromasin, or something as strong as leto, keeping levels stable with ment is also an added issue because of the 17b alteration rather than the traditional 17a, It will not only be absorbed through plasma but through the liver as well.
What we can expect, if we can control the side affects, will rival tren's ability to retain LBM while calorie deficit, and Nandrolones ability to put pronounced muscle mass, all the while keeping you relatively dry like tren.
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]What I'm getting at, is we still don't know enough about the compound to argue about its perceived and theroritized potential to argue about its use. You could be a "Non Responder" or transdermally, your body is needing more of a dose because of a stronger metabolite resistance to liver bioavailability. Injecting may be better route for you, or even increasing the dose. Maybe even staying at the current level and allow some time for blood levels to rise and make another assessment in a couple weeks. Unfortunately with MENT nothing is cut and dry until we understand it 100%.[/FONT]
There it is.....Hmmmmmmm???.....
