Abdominals and Definition: Suggestions??

HackTwat

MuscleChemistry Registered Member
Alright Guys and Gals,

I'd like to get some suggestions and/or opinions from yall on the best course of action for my stubborn midsection. My abdominals are coming along nicely, but I still have this layer of skin with some fat at my sides and around to my back. Sort of like a pudge but not in the front. Its more so on each side of my back. Just wondering if there is a trick I'm missing here.
Also, the section from my belly button down seems to never want to flatten out totally. I'd like to have my stomach as hard and as flat as possible. I have attached a picture here to show where I am at presently. And, I have to admit I'm about half lazy when it comes to cardio cause I rarely do any. As well as ab work. I do absolutely zero, but before I go adding in this or that Hap-Hazardly, I thought I'd try and get some good suggestions from you guys....



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I can take the critism guys. Let me have it. I wouldnt post a selfie with a flip phone if I wasnt ready for a little ridicule.... lol
 
Tighten up on the diet Im thinkin....right? Its a tough spot your in cause cutting cals could lead to a lil muscle loss too. You may not want that. But try cutting back 200 cals and throw in cardio 3 x wk ..... maybe 20 min at 120 bpm.
 
More than likely, I'll be adding a little cardio and light abdominal work, but I'm still strugglin to eat enough as it is. Its the ultimate struggle for us..... Gaining quality muscle while stayin on the lower end of BF..... This Anadrol may or may not be helping this struggle, but I'm sure the Proviron is helping... ;)
 
You need to cut with Diet... You have abs, but fat layer on.
You can also try T3+clen or ECA or albuterol.
 
You need to cut with Diet... You have abs, but fat layer on.
You can also try T3+clen or ECA or albuterol.

Could use a little cleaning up for sure.... Not a big fan of T3+Clen or ECA..... Guess I'm just waiting for someone to say get off your lazy ass and do some cardio Austin... LMAO
 
Could use a little cleaning up for sure.... Not a big fan of T3+Clen or ECA..... Guess I'm just waiting for someone to say get off your lazy ass and do some cardio Austin... LMAO

You can do some conditioning workout with circuit training.
Ends each workout with farmer walk, light weight (high reps) Olympic lift (snatch, push press, etc..) that will ups your metabolism for many hours.
 
T Nation | 7 Rules of Conditioning

Here's what you need to know...

Loaded exercises can be used as part of a conditioning session to not only lose fat and build endurance, but also develop a more muscular body.
The key is pushing yourself beyond your comfort zone with weighted or loaded exercises that challenge the whole body.
Embrace the power of urgency, trying to complete a specific conditioning session as fast as possible, or doing as much work as possible within a determined time.
Few lifters enjoy performing conditioning or cardio. Can you blame them? Weight training builds size and strength and makes you feel invincible. Cardio on the other hand – especially slow-go, hamster cardio – feasts on lean tissue, jacks up cortisol, and leaves you looking and feeling like a depleted, shuffling, treadmill zombie.
It doesn't have to be this way. By following just seven simple rules, you can transform your soul-sucking cardio bouts into fat-stripping conditioning sessions that crank up your T levels and actually build serious muscle.
1. Get out of your comfort zone.

Brisk walking is a fine stress reliever and can help with recovery. Just don't expect it to have any effect on body composition or physical capacities unless you're so out of shape that walking takes you out of your comfort zone.
If you're comfortable during a conditioning session – even if it looks challenging on paper – you won't get much out of it. You must force your body to adapt if you want to change quickly. That's why the best way to get leaner and in better condition is to do higher intensity work like sprints, hill sprints, barbell complexes, Prowler pushing, farmer's walks, and intervals.
I don't like to go by how bad a weight training session feels to judge its efficacy, but when it comes to conditioning work, it really is true.
2. Challenge the muscles.

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The human body is built for speed and power. Yes, we have the capacity to sustain work for longer periods of time, but dropping the speed/power aspect out of the equation is a mistake as we risk losing that lean and muscular look we all want.
That's why conditioning work that includes loaded and explosive work as part of an endurance session is the ideal method to improve the way you look. Farmer's walks, yoke carries, barbell complexes, box jumps, medicine ball throws, Prowler pushing, wheelbarrow walking, tire flipping, sledgehammer striking, kettlebell swings, and overhead lunges are all loaded exercises that can be used as part of a conditioning session to not only lose fat and build endurance, but also develop a more muscular body.
3. Involve the whole body.

The bigger the engine, the more fuel it burns. So if body composition is your main goal, involving more muscles (bigger engine) during your conditioning session will result in more fuel (fat) being burnt. Furthermore, involving more muscles increases the demand on the cardiovascular system, which obviously has a greater affect on improving your conditioning level and work capacity.
Finally, physically demanding work using more muscle groups at one time leads to a greater hormonal response (especially growth hormone and Testosterone), which affects both muscle gain and fat loss positively.
4. Include speed and power.

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Most coaches say that speed and power work should only be done in a fresh state. I agree, if the goal is to maximize these capacities. That said, doing speed and power work in a state of metabolic fatigue has a very powerful training effect.
I know from experience that doing speed and power work when the body is metabolically fatigued (but neurally fresh) causes a profound change in body composition, and the effect is seen very quickly. Whether it's due to survival mechanisms or specific hormonal responses, I'm not sure. Regardless, it works!
Here are some examples of what I'm talking about:
• Explosive lifting – it could be a variation of the Olympic lifts or regular lifts like squats or bench press – done immediately after you've created some metabolic fatigue with an exercise like battle ropes, Prowler pushing, hill sprints, or loaded carries. For instance, you might push the Prowler 40 yards, sprint back, and then do 5 power snatches.
• Doing a ballistic movement like jumps or medicine ball throws right after having fatigued the muscles involved through higher rep/pump work for the involved muscles. For instance, doing 5 box jumps after a set of high-rep squats.
• Including explosive work as part of a metabolically-oriented circuit. For instance, 1000m on the rowing machine, 30 burpees, 20 kettlebell swings, 10 box jumps, and 5 power cleans.
• (bodybuilding-oriented): Westside-like speed work once the involved muscles are pumped. For instance, doing pump work for the chest (pec deck, 4 sets of 10 reps with a 3-second squeeze at the peak contraction) followed up by 6 sets of 3 reps of bench press done as explosively as possible with 50% of 1RM and then 1 set of as many reps as you can with 85% of 1RM.
• (sports-training related): Ending a hard lifting workout with explosive work. For example a football player might do his regular lower body workout which would involve heavy power cleans, squats, and Romanian deadlifts and then finish up the workout with lighter, but super explosive, power cleans for 5 sets of 3 reps with 30 seconds of rest between sets.
5. Embrace the power of urgency.

Every time I've had to finish a workout within a certain time I've felt more focused, which led to better workouts. I also enjoyed fewer psychological inhibitions (e.g., being intimidated by a weight) and that allowed me to perform at a much higher level.
That's why I love things like Every Minute on the Minute Sets (doing one set every time the clock hits 1 minute), trying to complete a specific conditioning session as fast as possible, or doing as much work as possible within a determined time.
It puts you in a different mindset, one that's much more conducive to quality workouts. This is especially true for energy system/conditioning sessions. It seems to take your mind off the pain and physical discomfort and allows you to power through, ultimately leading to much better gains.
6. Crank the music.

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Strength is a skill. When I want to maximize my performance on a lift, I need to be able to concentrate on the task at hand and not be distracted. Music can hurt my performance as I'm not one to bang heads listening to death metal before a bench press set.
When it comes to conditioning work, however, I actually like loud music that has great rhythm as it helps me focus on maintaining a fast pace. The fact is, my performance during conditioning sessions drops by about 25% if I'm not listening to music!
7. Use slow pace cardio strategically.

I'm big on higher intensity work for conditioning but that doesn't mean that I'm against slow pace cardio. A good cardiovascular system is the foundation for solid performance at higher intensities of work and allows you to recover between bouts of higher intensity work (in part by increasing the conversion of lactate to glucose).
For example, I like doing things like 3-4 rounds of 200-meter farmer's walk followed by 600 meters of jogging.
If someone has a lousy cardiovascular system, jumping straight into a super high intensity GPP routine probably isn't a good idea. For such a person, building up their cardiovascular system with lower intensity cardio is necessary. Once you have a solid base, though, it's best to use the lower intensity cardio as the active recovery part of a harder overall session.
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Let's get real. Some gifted athletes can build a muscular, lean, powerful physique without performing a lick of cardio or even conditioning work. For ordinary humans – or those who want the best results possible – a little hard, intelligent conditioning can go a long way towards building a rock-hard, formidable body that's built for bad. Just follow the seven rules above.
 
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You can do some conditioning workout with circuit training.
Ends each workout with farmer walk, light weight (high reps) Olympic lift (snatch, push press, etc..) that will ups your metabolism for many hours.

Thanks Brother. I utilize my training time pretty well with a maximum 60 second rest between stes as it is, so adding in a little at the end shouldn't be too hard to pull off.

Was also thinking of adding some light morning cardio, but I'll be needing a light protein shake before hand to avoid that catabolism.... ;)
 
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I know you said you didn't like eca, but eca or just yca will greatly help brother. Also, heavy squats and deadlifts will make your midsection a lot tighter. I could never get rid of that pudge like you mentioned (unless I was majorly dieting) until I made the transition over to lifting heavy. Another thing, don't do any ab exercises other than permutations of hanging leg raises (weighted of course) and the ab roller. I've found the others are just a waste of time and for people who detest training abs like us they are marginally more entertaining.

Sorry for the shitty advise. Basically just build so much muscle, you change your metabolism is the long term solution.
 
I think i see the situation. You want to go from here to where your woman pulls your pants down without asking and the Brazilian chick at the gym texts you nude boobie picks. Simple solution really. this is a matter of cleaning up the diet for 4 weeks and adding in one extra cardio session a week. If you are like a lot of us you have your 12 foods picked that you eat every week that your body loves. Stick to those and drop the junk you sneak in. If you eat clean all week and just junk it onj week ends it's even easier. It's just 4 week ends clean eating.
 
Broccoli and cardio big daddy. I'm gonna be there in about 9-10 more weeks and start drying out.
 
Broccoli and cardio big daddy. I'm gonna be there in about 9-10 more weeks and start drying out.

yep when i want to trim up i do this^^^^^^^..
not done any cardio since april and it shows..
high incline walking or HITT with eca bang and the dirt is gone..no running fuk that..kills my knee's...
 
I think i see the situation. You want to go from here to where your woman pulls your pants down without asking and the Brazilian chick at the gym texts you nude boobie picks. Simple solution really. this is a matter of cleaning up the diet for 4 weeks and adding in one extra cardio session a week. If you are like a lot of us you have your 12 foods picked that you eat every week that your body loves. Stick to those and drop the junk you sneak in. If you eat clean all week and just junk it onj week ends it's even easier. It's just 4 week ends clean eating.

Holy Shit!! You do know me!! LMAO!! I hear ya daddio...... 4 weeks and one cardio a week... Hmmmmm?? Doesn't sound too bad....
 
Ya man. It sucks, but you know what you have to do. Do some carb cycling. Cut out the pasta, bread, and that stuff. Get your protein from meat and do cardio at the end of every workout. I'm up to 50 minutes of cardio 6-7 times a week. I'll tell you Bro. You look SO MUCH bigger and better when you are leaner.
It's like a whole new experience in your training. If you can commit to it you'll be mad at yourself for not doing it earlier
 
Thanks a million guys. Admitting it here motivates me into some cardio as crazy as it sounds. Damn, does that tell yall how much time I spend here??? lol
 
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