When to use hcg and wat to take??

weesammy24

weesammy24

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Hi everyone 1st time on a forum and looking some answers ive done a couple of steriod cycles and never really knew about hcg or pct ive always took arimidex while on my cycle cause always suffered from lumps behind my nipples but im about to start a new 12 week cycle of hgh and testmix 350 and would like to know when to start to take hcg and wat to take also when to pct and wat to take thanks
 
welcome to mc bro , well i usually use hcg throughout my cycle @ 250 iu x2 week and for PCT I assume your test mix must be of long esters so u can start PCT after 2 weeks of ur last jab of test mix
i would keep running arimidex untill i start my PCT

SO PCT start week 14 (assuming u are using long ester test )
clomid @ 75mg ed week 1 , week 2 -week4 50 mg ed
nolvadex @ 40 mg ed week1 , week2 -week4 20 mg ed

Benefits of hCG during your cycle:

1. Prevention of testicular atrophy.
-- This is done by mimicking LH and restarting natural testosterone production in the testes.

2. Speed up recovery.
-- This is done by mimicking LH so that your Leydig cells remain stimulated.

3. Balances hormonal fluctuation. (Mainly TRT patients and dose dependant)
-- By strategically timing hCG injections, you will prevent "dips" in serum levels.

4. hCG in involved in the process of production for DHEA, Cortisol and Pregnenolone.
-- A host of benefits here. These benefits will combat fatigue and stress, betters your mood, has a role in energy, reduced cardiovascular risk, immune stimulation, betters memory, and more.

as for clomid and nolva

There are 2 major components involved in recovery. Testosterone production and Spermatogenesis.

LH and FSH are both required for the equation. LH is produced by the pituitary and stimulates the Leydig cells to produce testosterone. Once testosterone is in production it works alongside FSH and stimulates sertoli cells to produce sperm. Sperm production is hindered if either of these are unhealthy. They both work in synergy. You need BOTH to be at healthy levels.

clomid has multiple effects. It's an anti-estrogen, so it obviously decreases the estrogenic effects in your body by stimulating the Hypothalamus back to life and sending gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH) to your pituitary, so that LH/FSH can be secreted.

Nolva boosts the effects of clomid because it put clomid into "competition" mode where they both fight for a receptors to bind to. This competitiveness will only occur with the presence of BOTH nolva/clomid, and will inevitably resolve the issue of excess estrogen in the Hypothalamus. This will trigger both LH and FSH to crank UP, as the high estrogen in this cluster is suppressive. This entire scenario is not as effective with only one drug.

Furthermore varying the compounds; Since we know both stimulate LH, what most don't know is that the act is different. clomid boosts the amplitude of LH serum, but has no effect on the frequency. nolva is the complete opposite in that area, where it boosts the actual frequency of LH and has no effect on its amplitude.

You're probably assuming they're identical and overpowering... clomid is a mixed agonist/antagonist for the estradiol receptor. Nolva is also mixed, however.... it is a pure antagonist in the E receptor in breast tissue. There is a reason that clomid is not recommended for gynecomastia reversal, but Nolva is.

Can you recover with just Nolvadex, or just clomid? Well, anything is possible. But why would you take that risk if the combination gives you a much better chance? To save a few bucks and risk your health? clomid when coupled with Nolvadex is clearly the safer choice over using either compound individually.
http://www.musclechemistry.com/uplo...inistration.html?highlight=post+cycle+therapy

http://www.musclechemistry.com/uplo...onadotropin.html?highlight=post+cycle+therapy

http://www.musclechemistry.com/uplo...cle-therapy.html?highlight=post+cycle+therapy

these are some article u can read they have some good info

they are many ways u can run HCG and PCT , u will probably get more opinions u can chose what is best for u , i have shared my opinion how i like to do my PCt and HCG
hope it helps u

and we would still like to know ur past cycles and some more stats to help u further
thanks AKN
 
12 week cycle of HGH is pointless! not just a little bot pointless, but an absolute total waste of your money and time! Incase you wanted to know! lol
 
Presser how long do u recommend to stay on it for everyone says sumthin different thats y im here looking answers

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weesammy24 said:
Presser how long do u recommend to stay on it for everyone says sumthin different thats y im here looking answers

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Yeah I know people get a hundred different answers for things but this is pretty basic bro, and pretty well know fact that you need to stay on HGH for minimum of 6-12 months as it is gonna take months to really start seeing the real benefits of HGH. So my advice to you would be if anyone tells you a 12 month cycle of HGH is ok, then run the other way cause they're talking out their asses!

and welcome to MuscleChemistry brutha!
 
HGH at least 6 - 8 months , but if u are planning just to run 12 week cycle go for igf-1 lr3 u can see results much quicker within weeks , by using igf-1 lr3 u are cutting the middle man ,hgh have its benefits in cutting fat and all but compare to igf-1 lr3 , igf wins every time for me , more pumps , gaining weight while dropping bf% plus the best thing it is not as expensive as hgh
 
Thanks for the info presser if I do the hgh for 12 months can I work my test cycle 8 weeks on 8 weeks off in between? And what way would I hcg and pct for this long cycle

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IMHO an 8 week cycle of 350mg of test mix you should not need hcg just a good pct protocol. .thats not a high dose by any means and 8 weeks you should bounce back quickly. .

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Pct is standard as stated above..stick to either one they both work well..you will find one that works better with your body..but that is trail and error..
 
Thanks guys use have been brilliant with all my questions 2day much appreciated

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As presser mentioned u can just read those reviews and judge itnurself and I'll be waiting for ur log then
Best of luck mate
 
Thanks everyone been reading up on it and its definitely the way im gona go

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well not much left for me to say here that hasnt been said. lol the guys covered it all.

but yes you can run the igf for 12 weeks along with the other stuff and actually SEE results, more cost effective as well.
 
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