The cure to pip

Hi guys I've been looking around this forum now for about two years and I have a question that has so many conflicting answers it's so hard to nail it so I've decided to finally join and get some info and put something back into this forum from what I've personally learnt but my first question is I'm making test e 400mg/ml and I hear some people say there's is painless so I know this can be done but how is there a method?
I just made a batch and pain was rediculous it was as follows
test e
2% ba
18% bb
gso
Making 400mg/ml

why was this painful is it just due to high concentration of test?
My next plan was to do the same with 50/50 gso and eo as I've heard eo helps pip and ha anaesthetic properties do you think this will help?

i was also told to do 95% eo 5% ba and nothing else surely this would crystalize in muscle due to no bb right?what was reasoning behind this suggestion?

im dying to crack this so any help/recipe suggestions would be great thanks

p.s will geuicol help with pip?good to use?

I´m going to say that you should watch for a crash. After 330 mg the solution may become supersaturated. Which is why most brewers do batches in 200 mg then combine the two solutions after they are stable. So to your question. PIP can be caused by one of two things. The size of the molecule and high BA content. I have since abandoned the idea of 2% and have resolved for 1.5%. Test prop and primo have enormous molecules. Hence pip. However, test e or c does not. Sustanon can also have pip due to the minuscule amount of prop. But the culprit has always been the 2% BA.

I just made 500mg/ml & the pip is fucking vicious almost as bad as my tne in oil batch

The concentration of the ester is what is killing you. The crystallization in the muscle tissue is something to be reckoned with for almost 5 days.
GSO is great for light bigger esters like prop, NPP and Deca and EQ and dissipates faster. If you did this (high mg.ml Test E or Cyp)with sesame as the carrier then it would be thicker but pain would subside sooner.
The higher the concentration the more chance of PIP and the body reaction and building scar tissue. 300 max is what I would do with GSO-the BB can be lessened too as the viscosity is lighter with GSO. The BA should be around 2-3% total per volume. BB is the solvent and reduces viscosity in the saturated solution.

I'm loving the new lab I'm on. No pip! Even with my shaky left hand. Haha. I can't even feel it going in like I have in the past. Maybe my muscles are just sensitized over the years.


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DefMetalLifter said:

I'm loving the new lab I'm on. No pip! Even with my shaky left hand. Haha. I can't even feel it going in like I have in the past. Maybe my muscles are just sensitized over the years.


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That's always nice!

my brew was a little different
500mg/ml
18%bb
2.5%Guaiacol
2%BB
MCT Oil

I might just tough it out until i get tired of it or cut it with some benzyl salicylate and drop it to 400mg/ml

What it is
Benzyl Salicylate, also called benzyl 2-hydroxybenzoate, is a clear and colorless liquid. It has a floral aroma.
What it does
Benzyl Salicylate adds fragrance to a product.
In addition, it is used as an UV light absorber. UV light absorbers scatter, reflect or absorb UV rays, thus preventing products from going bad. In haircare products, they also protect hair from UV rays.
Side effects
Benzyl Salicylate can cause irritations, sensitization and sever allergic reactions.
It wont do much in regards to benefiting you, it has more side effects that benefits unless you plan to leave the product in direct sunlight. I would not mix it with guaiacol, just my professional opinion.

Cry stylisation seems to be the cause I'm currently experimenting ATM so I'll let you know when I've got it

So anyone have anything new to add to this? I hear EC is painless and it makes me wonder what their recipe is and if they use a synthetic oil.

Running the EO would hurt me more than help.

5% benzocain