First Brew done

Well, yesterday finally i did my first brew (Bolde300 and Tren E 200)with a glass bottle system and a handpump vacuum.

Bolde300 with 2%BA + 10%BB + GSO
Tren E200 with 2%BA + 15%BB + GSO

It looks very good, clean gear, and the tren with a gold color. After all the process(not really difficult) i have some questions:

-When i took the bolde out of the bag and weight it, i loose like a gr. It was liquid at room temp, so i squeezed the bag until i pushed all the liquid to come out, but you know there is always some rest around the plastic and the final weight was around 1gr less. Can i change the status of the hormone to powder in some way? The same happened with tren e, but in this case it was powder so i only loose like 0.10gr, something more affordable.

-When i put the mix of ba,bb,oil and hormone (was warm, about 190F) on the bottle top and i pressed the handpump vacuum to filter, it started to pass through the filter and going to the receiver like a little thin squirt, and i filtered 150ml in about 2 min, is this normal speed or it has to be slower?

- I have sustanon250 pre-mixed to brew, but it is like a cream/paste, so looks like i am going to loose some gr or grs taking it out from the bag....some recommendation to do it?

i used as a filter paper PVDF Membrane 0.20 micron. You can see the results in the attached files

Thanks in advance for your answers guys...

I think you learned a lot. That's not bad for your first brew. Good Job.
First, the source should not be sending those raws that melt at room temp in a bag. If they are in a bag, weight it out..the bag barely weighs anything.
Use the BB and oil mix (can be just a few mls) to flush the bag out. Second way, place it in the freezer until it becomes a solid then peel it from the bag quickly and add it.

The third thing-Sust mix should not be melted-that's test enth. The powder raws in sust are all short esters and the long ones will be like grains of salt, they will not melt at room temp-Test Enth does that.

Again, your ratios are good and your recipes looks dead on..what mls did you make total volume?

Thanks for your answer powderguy. Well the bolde was completly liquid, i think is the normal way, right?. I weighed the raws before start and the weigh was correct, the bag was even less than 1gr. But next time i know i can add a bit of BB and oil to the bag to get all the hormone out, thanks for that trick.Respect the susta is just how you said, like some kind of salt grain with paste, i don't know which method i will use to take it out, BB+oil or freeze, ehhehe, tomorrow i will brew it.
For bolde i used 2%BA+10%BB, to make it a little bit more thinner
For Tren E i used 2%BA+15%BB, and really i am happy, it really looks good

i hope it is not painfull, i had some problems with the paper filter, so it didn't fit well in the buchner and i had to cut it a bit, hehehehe. For safety, one time everything was int he vials and crimped i put all the vial in the oven at 220F for 10 minutes

Sounds like you did it right buddy.
Let it sist at room temp and look for separation to make sure it wont crash but It shouldn't.

Yes you can cool off the sust and peel it and use it. Careful if the bag is thin so the bb and oil doesn't eat through it, honestly freezer method works best.

You said you used 2% but what is the total volume you filtered? 20mls? 30mls? etc

Heheheh sorry, i did 150ml of bolde300 and 150ml of tren e. Ehhehehe.
Tomorrow i would like to do 150ml of susta, 150ml of test p and 150ml mast p. Hope get the same or better results

thanks man!

Thanks,
With Test P you do not need to exceed 1.9% BA- use gso and no BB you will like it better
With the Mast the BB can be reduced to 9% and the BA to 1.9% per volume.

BB is essentially a thinner and will help dissolve the powder as well, the BA is a microbial preservative.

I posted an article on the components and their uses in this forum.

Thanks man! I knew it about the BB, but i am gonna take a look to your article. I will use those amount of BB tomorrow and i will post again, hehehehe. Some recommendation for BB with susta?

You can use the same Test P recipe with susta. However your susta sounds like it has Test E in it. I don't honestly know but normal susta doesn't melt at room temp.

i will take a pic tonight and i will upload. is not really melted at all like boldenone, is more like something between powder and salt grains

That sounds like susta..its grainy with some powder.

Don't forget to let the oil cool down before you filter it. Don't touch the filter with your fingers, no need to cut it.
Draw some of the oil you're going to filter with the syringe and put it on the filter so it gets stuck, and then filter the rest.

Thank thx, here you can read some problems i had

Powderguys here is a pic of my susta... and new updates of the batch yesterday that was much better than the first one... i had some filter problems and the beginning and the first batch was not really filtered well.... the filter disc didn't fit well in the funnel so in my second batch and after spoke with the shop that i bought and check that or the funnel is a bit small for the discs or the discs are a bit big, i cut a little bit the borders of the filter until it fitted perfectly in the funnel. Here are the results, i think much more clear than the first batch...
Powderguy should i refilter the first batch right???or maybe baking them in the oven at 220F for about 10-15 min it will get sterilized ?

Thanks in advance!

Yeah filter the first batch again and wet the filter with oil first or just do the first filtration slowly a little at a time.

Secondly your sust looks like Test E with Test P mixed in. Sust does not melt like that..I think anyone who has used it will tell you the same.

Powderguy said:

Yeah filter the first batch again and wet the filter with oil first or just do the first filtration slowly a little at a time.

Secondly your sust looks like Test E with Test P mixed in. Sust does not melt like that..I think anyone who has used it will tell you the same.

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You're right, bro. Susta looks like a test enanthate. Injections, made from such powder, has always been painful.

Wtf with my susta....I asked the source so let's see what thye say.

I will refilter the first batch this weekend.
Thanks guys!

Giru said:

Wtf with my susta....I asked the source so let's see what thye say.

I will refilter the first batch this weekend.
Thanks guys!

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What can you say about the injection of this solution? Painful or not?

I didn't try it yet. Monday i will try it

Giru said:

I didn't try it yet. Monday i will try it

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I'll wait for Review on Tuesday In all such cases, my solution of the same powder was painful. Be ready, bro.

Yeah a lot are trying to pass it off as sust. Its cheaper enthanate and prop mix. the test E probably is older batches or cheaper quality that still has an acidic content.

You can tell if you taste it and its bitter or salty (hahaha) I know it resembles semen and the description doesn't help but do what you gotta do.

Real sust is a bunch of powders, grainy, powdery and different grain sizes. Its a dry composition.

This acidic TE mixed with TP will be painful no matter what content of BA or BB you use.

That's why I buy all my raws seperately; Test D, Test P, Test phy, and Test iso this way I can insure I get the proper mixture. I don't trust buying sust already mixed.

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Yeah a lot are trying to pass it off as sust. Its cheaper enthanate and prop mix. the test E probably is older batches or cheaper quality that still has an acidic content.

You can tell if you taste it and its bitter or salty (hahaha) I know it resembles semen and the description doesn't help but do what you gotta do.

Real sust is a bunch of powders, grainy, powdery and different grain sizes. Its a dry composition.

This acidic TE mixed with TP will be painful no matter what content of BA or BB you use.

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