Need help with couple of things

Alex San · Jul 17, 2016

Hello fellas, I am on for last 20 days , I started the hormones at very minimal dose ÷
Test Enth- 250mg / week
Decca - 250mg / week
This is the first time ever I am doing so low doses, I wanna keep test low and take decca upto 600mg / week.I started prami right away on 1st day0.12.5mg/day.

1.My concerns are should I start Aromasin at a low dose just to be safe or get the E2 tested and then start it.I am not feeling any sides ,libido is good so far but better safe than gyno.

2 . Secondly is it the right time to get the E2 tested or is it too early.
3. And should I expect good gains in strength at 250 mg / week dose of each or should I increase both compounds? As my goal is strength.

Thanks for all the help friends.

NY ROBO · Jul 17, 2016

hey there,1. i would def use a low dose aromasin, say 12.5 eod..2. 20 days, long ester, i would wait longer.3. the gainz depend on you. you can def make good gainz on that. its much more then your body normally has, but ultimately is about diet and training the most.cheers

IronJulius · Jul 17, 2016

i wouldnt run deca higher than test maybe 500mg test to 375mg deca (you would get good gainz off that) and yes use the AI also i wouldnt run caber unless it is needed which deca will not start kicking in until weeks 6-7 which is also a good time to get e2 checked if you get blood work done

jimbosmith316 · Jul 18, 2016

Alex San said:
Hello fellas, I am on for last 20 days , I started the hormones at very minimal dose ÷
Test Enth- 250mg / week
Decca - 250mg / week
This is the first time ever I am doing so low doses, I wanna keep test low and take decca upto 600mg / week.I started prami right away on 1st day0.12.5mg/day.

1.My concerns are should I start Aromasin at a low dose just to be safe or get the E2 tested and then start it.I am not feeling any sides ,libido is good so far but better safe than gyno.

2 . Secondly is it the right time to get the E2 tested or is it too early.
3. And should I expect good gains in strength at 250 mg / week dose of each or should I increase both compounds? As my goal is strength.

Thanks for all the help friends.

I have some using 12.5 eod or 25 ewvry other day of aromasin. I think what you stated 12.5 eod is probably better more level.

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3J · Jul 18, 2016

what are your goals with this cycle??

what are your current stats?

Mountain_Man · Jul 18, 2016

IronJulius said:
i wouldnt run deca higher than test maybe 500mg test to 375mg deca (you would get good gainz off that) and yes use the AI also i wouldnt run caber unless it is needed which deca will not start kicking in until weeks 6-7 which is also a good time to get e2 checked if you get blood work done

I Agree with all IJ said ESP the deca always run test higher than deca

camthman · Jul 18, 2016

Mountain_Man said:
I Agree with all IJ said ESP the deca always run test higher than deca

+1 on all this. However when it comes to nandrolone I tend to side with NPP or LOW dose of deca, no more than 300mg/week. Personal preference.

Alex San · Jul 18, 2016

3J said:
what are your goals with this cycle??

what are your current stats?

Buddy goals are very small , mainly strength , there is a local competition in bench press coming in town , not too big but its just maximum reps with 100 kg wanna compete that , stats r 35yrs , 77 kg bw and bf never measured or never needed to but been athletic so far, thanks

Mountain_Man · Jul 18, 2016

Alex San said:
Buddy goals are very small , mainly strength , there is a local competition in bench press coming in town , not too big but its just maximum reps with 100 kg wanna compete that , stats r 35yrs , 77 kg bw and bf never measured or never needed to but been athletic so far, thanks

If it was me and looking for strength I would use test at 500-600 a week prop if ur short on time and deca takes forever to kick in and at 250 mg u may not even notice it npp would be a better choice 400 mg a week it's a lot of pins but unless u have 10-12 weeks to prepare for the meet the deca will not even be in full swing. Just my thoughts on it but how long do you have till u compete

Alex San · Jul 18, 2016

Mountain_Man said:
If it was me and looking for strength I would use test at 500-600 a week prop if ur short on time and deca takes forever to kick in and at 250 mg u may not even notice it npp would be a better choice 400 mg a week it's a lot of pins but unless u have 10-12 weeks to prepare for the meet the deca will not even be in full swing. Just my thoughts on it but how long do you have till u compete

Its in October so there were 3 full months in advance when I started, I just startedat a low dose but will gradually take decca upto 600 mg and same test , i jus wanted to try wat every body is preaching these days less is more otherwise I m a 1 gram test guy so jus wanted to try a low dose.

Mountain_Man · Jul 18, 2016

Alex San said:
Its in October so there were 3 full months in advance when I started, I just startedat a low dose but will gradually take decca upto 600 mg and same test , i jus wanted to try wat every body is preaching these days less is more otherwise I m a 1 gram test guy so jus wanted to try a low dose.

Cool I understand brother

yellow snow · Jul 18, 2016

I would test your E2 in week 3 or 4. Everyone's body is different and too low or too high E2 is not fun.

If you aren't prone to gyno, then with this low dose you should be fine without and estrogen blockers; you will gain more without them. First sign you get itchy nipples or puffiness you can start the aromasin which will take care of any issue you have right away.

IronJulius · Jul 18, 2016

yellow snow said:
I would test your E2 in week 3 or 4. Everyone's body is different and too low or too high E2 is not fun.

If you aren't prone to gyno, then with this low dose you should be fine without and estrogen blockers; you will gain more without them. First sign you get itchy nipples or puffiness you can start the aromasin which will take care of any issue you have right away.

im one that tries to not use an AI on cycle. the higher estrogen helps me hold water which helps my strength and my wife and i watch chick flicks together, eat icecream, cuddle and cry thats kinda a joke but i can be a bitch with high E2 i might as well sit down to pee lol

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Alex San said:
Its in October so there were 3 full months in advance when I started, I just startedat a low dose but will gradually take decca upto 600 mg and same test , i jus wanted to try wat every body is preaching these days less is more otherwise I m a 1 gram test guy so jus wanted to try a low dose.

did you stop the prami? yes if you can get by with less than do it. i know for me tren is no better at 600mg than 400 and my sweet spot with deca is 600mg with 800mg test. damn i wish i was on it now

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