NO HCG, Made Some Changes During Cycle

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Hi fellas,
i am on my second cycle
Im 5'10", current weight= 210pounds
My first cycle was complete failure, i was taking cypionate 250mg EW for 8 weeks with dbold for 4weeks.got sick in between m left dbol in third week but completed with sustanon gained on 6-7pounds.working on my mistake i have my second cycle now.
Second cycle gear as follows:
1 to 4 weeks dbol 10,20,20,20mg respectively
Sustanon 250= 3 to 5 weeks= 250mg, 2shots every Tuesday n Friday @125mh each
Sustanon 250= 6 to 12 weeks= 500mg, 2shots every Tuesday n Friday @ 250mg each
arimidex 0.25mg EOD during cycle started from fourth week.
week 13,14,15 = Intermission
Week 16,17,18 PCT = 40mg, 20mg, 20mg nolva respectively.
multivitamin tab= 2ED
Fish oil Softgel= 2ED
i am into my 5th week n have gained 10pounds.
i am not taking any HCG, will that be ok with this cycle ?
 
welcome, im on phone, and driving so cant really reply , but the guys here will help ya out
 
Welcome to MuscleChemistry. Sustanon 250 is a blend of 4 testosterone esters. 1 of which is
Testosterone Propionate a short ester with a short half life. It must be injected at a minimum of eod to maintain stable blood levels.
Also usually when people run an oral at the beginning of their cycle it is because it takes a few weeks for longer acting esters to build up in the blood to be beneficial. In other words they start the longer acting esters at the same tim, day 1.
If it was me I would run the Sustanon for 12 weeks at 250 mg split the dose up in every other day injections or at least m-w-f. Save the D-bol for later but a minimum of 12 weeks on the test. You also don't need to ramp up on the dosage of testosterone if your going to do 250 mg just stay with that. That is probably all you need at this point.
 
I missed the part about this being you 5th week, lol. Stick with the 250 mg of Sustanon, split it into eod pins. 1/3 cc m-w-f. You should have already dropped the D-bol. Yes you should look into HCG for this cycle. We have a great write up on it in our articles forun.

Bro you needed more research BEFORE you started your cycle.
 
All the things you have said are true and i am well aware of that but i have started my cycle now, so honestly i don't want to make any changes at this time.Everything seems good.Body fat around 12%.So my only concern is testicles atrophy. Will that come back to its normal size after finishing my PCT with Nolvadex or is it really necessary for me to have HCG now?
 
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pank said:
All the things you have said are true and i am well aware of that but i have started my cycle now, so honestly i don't want to make any changes at this time.Everything seems good.Body fat around 12%.So my only concern is testicles atrophy. Will that come back to its normal size after finishing my PCT with Nolvadex or is it really necessary for me to have HCG now?
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i can understand not wanting to change gear or stop abruptly in 5th week but I don't understand how your not willing to change dosing schedule in order to help stabilize your hormone levels . That's like being lost and having the knowledge to pull over for directions and told your going the opposite direction but then decide to keep going the same way lol
 
And I posted the link to a great HCG article authored by one of the greatest minds in PEDs
 
The only reason why i don want to change mate because all my friends who did their cycle they injected twice a week, and i read a no. of threads people using sustanon 250 & injecting twice a week and even once a week.I am not saying that once a week is good, i know the hormone levels will go up and down, but most of my friends are satisfied with twice a week, so that's the only reason why i don't want to pin thrice a week.
 
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The only reason why i don want to change mate because all my friends who did their cycle they injected twice a week, and i read a no. of threads people using sustanon 250 & injecting twice a week and even once a week.I am not saying that once a week is good, i know the hormone levels will go up and down, but most of my friends are satisfied with twice a week, so that's the only reason why i don't want to pin thrice a week.
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Ok, lmao, well if your friends are doing it this way then it must be the best way. lol. Come on man, thats whats wrong with people today, you know the most efficient way to do something, but because it might cause a lil more work with adding in an extra injection a week, you rather forgo that extra work, and settle for mediocrity.

Sure, twice a week sustanon injections may not kill ya, and sure you will make gains, but why wouldnt you wanna maximize gains, and minimize side effects like acne, gyno, water retention, mood swings by just doing it the most efficient way possible.

Anyhow, I truly wish you the best of luck, no BS. But that "cause my friends do it so im doing it to" mentality is only curtailing your own gains!
 
Broscience gone wrong. My first cycle 20+ years ago was Sustanon 250. The big 18 gauge preloaded needles. I only took one a week. I had disappointing gains. I can imagine how different that would have turned out with a resource like MuscleChemistry.
 
Im with Iron-game, ive used Omnadren and sustanon alike in my early 20's and only at twice a week, and i made ok gains, but looking back after i had done the sustanon properly , i understand i could have had amazing gains first time around, and forgone any side effects from the hormone levels fluctuating.

Anyhow , im done with this post, lol so not a big deal to me, and Pank brutha, im serious good luck and grow big daddio!
 
Thanks for your vital feedback @presser & iron game.
Surely i ll go with thrice a week from now on.
 
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