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    Best clen thread around. Presser I read in your comment benadryl is behind the counter?? Thats crazy, you can buy them at 7-11 here. Then again 20 years ago you could get 100 25mg Ephedrine for 5.99 they were called Max Alert at 7-11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron-game View Post
    Best clen thread around. Presser I read in your comment benadryl is behind the counter?? Thats crazy, you can buy them at 7-11 here. Then again 20 years ago you could get 100 25mg Ephedrine for 5.99 they were called Max Alert at 7-11.
    yeah bro, we use to be able to buy those good pure ephedrine at gas stations out here to, then my state made it illegal and i had to go cross the bridge a couple times per month to grab them from a gas station there, I guess the ephedrine was good for truck drivers, as it was always well stocked at gas stations.

    Anyhow, I came into this thread to share a very good Original write up on "Properly Using Clenbuterol" by 3J of 3J Nutrition Network

    https://www.musclechemistry.com/uploa...-usage-3j.html
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    I rarely use oral Clen anymore since I've found Helios. It's a sub Q injection of clenbuterol and yohimbine that's pretty amazing. Pin it and in 30 min you will feel it kick in and it comes on really fast and hard unlike the oral. Ramp your dosage up slowly because it's stronger in this form. I would start at .25 of a cc then move up. I normally pin 1cc but don't start with that please. Also I use it 2 days on 2 days off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masher59 View Post
    I rarely use oral Clen anymore since I've found Helios. It's a sub Q injection of clenbuterol and yohimbine that's pretty amazing. Pin it and in 30 min you will feel it kick in and it comes on really fast and hard unlike the oral. Ramp your dosage up slowly because it's stronger in this form. I would start at .25 of a cc then move up. I normally pin 1cc but don't start with that please. Also I use it 2 days on 2 days off.
    I have never seen it in injectable form!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masher59 View Post
    I rarely use oral Clen anymore since I've found Helios. It's a sub Q injection of clenbuterol and yohimbine that's pretty amazing. Pin it and in 30 min you will feel it kick in and it comes on really fast and hard unlike the oral. Ramp your dosage up slowly because it's stronger in this form. I would start at .25 of a cc then move up. I normally pin 1cc but don't start with that please. Also I use it 2 days on 2 days off.
    That's something I'd like to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post
    I have never seen it in oral form!
    you never seen clenbuterol in oral form? as in never seen clen tabs or caps, or liquid clen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masher59 View Post
    I rarely use oral Clen anymore since I've found Helios. It's a sub Q injection of clenbuterol and yohimbine that's pretty amazing. Pin it and in 30 min you will feel it kick in and it comes on really fast and hard unlike the oral. Ramp your dosage up slowly because it's stronger in this form. I would start at .25 of a cc then move up. I normally pin 1cc but don't start with that please. Also I use it 2 days on 2 days off.
    sounds awesome man, might have to replace my next clenbuterol cycle with some helios it sounds like
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    you never seen clenbuterol in oral form? as in never seen clen tabs or caps, or liquid clen?
    Sorry, I meant Injectable Form. My mind was thinking of something else while I typed that.

    I have edited the post to have it be proper!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    awsome, now youll have the gym to yourself all this week when everyone is out sick from touching your snotty weights! Its genius I say! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron-game View Post
    That's something I'd like to try.
    It doesn't disappoint that's for damn sure and there are studies out there that are somewhat showing yohimbine can be used for spot fat reduction. I can't say that I noticed this but I was down to about 5% when I started using it and didn't have many fat pockets to try.
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    yohimbe good for spot fat reduction when used with a DMSO right?
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    So who has the best liquid clenbuterol these days? I ask because a member was just asking me, and I honestly havent a clue who even carries liquid clen.
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    Hi MC Guys,

    I will start T3 tomorrow at 50mcg for 2 weeks then 2 weeks with Clen

    will be back here for the result

    btw i have a question may i know what kind of diet should i take?

    Thanks
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    Low carb high protein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Buhat View Post
    Hi MC Guys,

    I will start T3 tomorrow at 50mcg for 2 weeks then 2 weeks with Clen

    will be back here for the result

    btw i have a question may i know what kind of diet should i take?

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Buhat View Post
    Hi MC Guys,

    I will start T3 tomorrow at 50mcg for 2 weeks then 2 weeks with Clen

    will be back here for the result

    btw i have a question may i know what kind of diet should i take?

    Thanks
    Yeah I am curious how your doing as well, and how 2 weeks cytomel (t3) then 2 weeks Clenbuterol went and what your diet looks like?
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    www.thesupplementoutlet.com has a clenbuterol product, hell a t3 product as well for those looking
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    On top of their clenbuterol, and cytomel product, i do believe they have sexual health aids like viagra and cialis!

    Liquid clenbuterol type products making a comeback,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    www.thesupplementoutlet.com has a clenbuterol product, hell a t3 product as well for those looking
    @Presser this is a wealth of information on clenbuterol and t3.

    Our products Aqua-burn & Cyto-burn are fully stocked and ready to help accomplish any resolutions.

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    Ive got some questions: In the FAQ u say that we can use ECA in the 2 weeks, where we dont take clen, right?
    Both of them are cns stimulants better beta-2 agonists. And we know that the beta-2-agonist are getting used to clen, so that we need the 2 weeks on/off cycle. So why are we able to use ephe in the off weeks, if it is also a cns stimulant like clen?
    Well I think to use ketotifen while taking clen but i still wanna know the reason why it is working... It is working, or? xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    www.thesupplementoutlet.com has a clenbuterol product, hell a t3 product as well for those looking
    Umm, WOW! Great feedback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    On top of their clenbuterol, and cytomel product, i do believe they have sexual health aids like viagra and cialis!

    Liquid clenbuterol type products making a comeback,
    GREAT INFOMATION
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    Quote Originally Posted by EInstein jr. View Post
    Ive got some questions: In the FAQ u say that we can use ECA in the 2 weeks, where we dont take clen, right?
    Both of them are cns stimulants better beta-2 agonists. And we know that the beta-2-agonist are getting used to clen, so that we need the 2 weeks on/off cycle. So why are we able to use ephe in the off weeks, if it is also a cns stimulant like clen?
    Well I think to use ketotifen while taking clen but i still wanna know the reason why it is working... It is working, or? xD
    WOW...Great question. From what I understand ephedrine binds to both alpha and beta adrenergic receptors including alpha1, beta1, and beta2 receptors. Ephedrine only causes very mild bata-2 downregulation of receptors. Thus allowing beta-2 receptors to improve to a degree. I also like ketotifen to prolong my clen cycle
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    I think everyone has asked themselves this clen then eca question. Including myself . good answer
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    Bumping our how to clenbuterol guide for anyone who wants to learn best protocol for running clen cycle and at what duration and dosage to run. It can be scary considering its potency as its measured in mcg (micrograms) and some liquid clen comes dosaged at 100mcg per ml and 200 mcgs per 1 milliliter so be careful! Read up and learn, or Train Your Mind To Build Your Body!
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    Clenbuterol thread and keyword for sale! First page ranking on google search! Big money maker
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    Can any one recommend the safest and most effective way to dose clen for a first cycle. Not sure if I I should 2 day on/off, 2 weeks on/off
    Possible layout
    total of 6 weeks on, split into 3 two week cycles.
    cycle 1:
    20mcg - day 1
    20mcg
    40mcg
    40mcg
    60mcg
    60mcg
    80mcg
    80mcg
    80mcg
    60mcg
    40mcg
    20mcg - end of first cycle (2 weeks)


    2 weeks off

    20mcg - day 1
    20mcg
    40mcg
    40mcg
    60mcg
    80mcg
    100mcg
    100mcg
    80mcg
    60mcg
    40mcg
    20mcg end of second cycle (2 weeks)


    2 weeks off

    20mcg -day 1
    40mcg
    60mcg
    80mcg
    100mcg
    120mcg
    120mcg
    120mcg
    100mcg
    80mcg
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    2 weeks on 2 weeks off is the way to go. I believe clen has about 35h half-life. So 2 days off is not enough.

    It's impossible to say how much you can take because only you know how much you tolerate. Start off with 20mcg and build up, I wouldn't go above 80mcg. If you get good results with lower dosage, stick to that.
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    I always suggest use ECA stack before trying clenbuterol ! I’m no clen fan and understand it’s better or stronger than ECA but it works great at keeping me Lean and that preworkout energy I need
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    Clenbuterol cycle dosage guide
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    Can u take Clen longer if u take 1mg of ketotifen daily

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    Yes you can run clenbuterol longer using keto but I’m not certain at what dosage
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    What Is Clenbuterol?

    Clenbuterol is a drug that was originally created as a bronchodilator. It was originally developed as a sympathomimetic amine used by people suffering from breathing disorders. These people with chronic breathing disorders such as asthma use Clenbuterol as a bronchodilator to make breathing easier.
    However, Clenbuterol has other effects on the body. Because of the fact that it works by increasing core body temperature in order to work, it can increase the rate of metabolism, thereby burning fat.

    Athletes and bodybuilders especially have been utilizing Clen’s capabilities as a fat burner for years now. Because of this, there are many variations of ways that Clenbuterol can be used. So, before you decide on a particular dosage or way of using Clenbuterol, you need to know all about the options you have and see the one best suited to you.
    Because of this, there are many variations of ways that Clenbuterol can be used. So, before you decide on a particular dosage or way of using Clenbuterol, you need to know all about the options you have and see the one best suited to you.
    So, you’re going to have to get a run through of the most popular and the most effective methods of using Clenbuterol. These are sometimes called Clen cycles.



    Types Of Clen Cycles

    Two Weeks On And Two Weeks Off

    Coming right at number one is the most popular Clenbuterol cycle. It is a two week on and two weeks off method. As earlier stated, this method is probably the most common in bodybuilding communities. This method involves you starting at the lowest dose and then increasing the dose on set days during a two week period. After these two weeks though, you need to stay off Clenbuterol to give your body time to reset and rest.
    This, of course, is to avoid developing a dangerous tolerance to the drug. After this break, you repeat the steps again but this time you begin from where you left off during the previous cycle. That, of course, is if you’ve not reached your optimal tolerance level for Clenbuterol.

    Incrementing Cycle

    The second type of dosage cycle is the Incrementing cycle. This cycle is less intense than other cycles and seems to be the only one extremely mindful of the side effects of Clenbuterol. It also looks like a very straightforward pattern.
    To begin, you stick to the lowest dose of Clenbuterol for two to three weeks. After this, you take a break of an equal amount of time to let your body relax and reset itself. Then you begin the next cycle, but this time you increase your former dosage by 20mcg. You then stick to this dosage for the cycle. After the cycle, you continue with another increment until you reach your optimal dosage or you have the effects desired.
    Burst Method

    The third method is the burst method. It is basically two days on and two days off method. Although this one is relatively popular, it is only for the more experienced users of Clenbuterol. This is because of the fact that it is not side effects friendly and can release the fury of Clenbuterol side effects on you. For this reason, you should only use the burst method when you are certain that Clenbuterol has negligible side effects on you or that you are capable of enduring the side effects of the drug.

    With this method, you start with the highest recommended dose possible (possible for you, that is) and you maintain this for two days. Then for the next two days, you don’t take Clenbuterol. After this, you continue again. You should remember that this method is very intense and should only be done by people who have a very high tolerance for the side effects of Clenbuterol.
    So What Dosage Is Perfect For You?

    You might be thinking, so what is the typical Clenbuterol dosage? Is there a kind of dosage that everyone can use?
    Your dosage basically all depends on your tolerance level and what results you seek to gain out of using Clenbuterol.
    You might also be wondering why you have to take breaks during Clenbuterol dosage. That is a good question. The thing about Clenbuterol is that it is a stimulant to the central nervous system that the body adjusts to quickly. This means that before a short period of time, your body would become tolerant to it. If your body became tolerant to Clenbuterol, it would be immune against the effects and Clen would suddenly stop working for you. That is why you need to take breaks to avoid becoming immune to the effects of Clenbuterol.
    What this means is that to stop your body from becoming immune to the drug, you might have to increase your dosage. This is to avoid reaching a stage where you become so tolerant or immune to the drug that it has no effect on you.
    Dosage Guide For Men & Women

    1. Guys can get a 40mcg pack that reaches up to a limit of 140mcg. While women can start at 20mcg and work their way up to 100mcg.
    2. After this, depending on the cycle of Clenbuterol you feel is appropriate for you, your dose will continue to increase by 20mcg until you reach the end of your cycle or your maximum dose.
    3. Once you begin to experience serious side effects, you should reduce your current dosage by 20mcg and stick to that.

    How Does Clenbuterol Help?

    There might be some confusion as to the real nature of Clenbuterol. Some believe that it is a steroid, however, this is false. Clenbuterol is an anabolic supplement that also doubles as a bronchodilator.
    If you are finding ways to improve weight loss, Clenbuterol can be a veritable option for reaching an end.
    Clenbuterol has thermogenic properties. What this simply means is that Clenbuterol can help to increase body temperature. As your body heats up, so does your metabolism. This means that your body is able to burn more calories because of the heat. This is basically how Clenbuterol burns fat.

    While Clenbuterol is a stimulant, it also doubles as a beta-antagonist which stimulates the beta-2 receptors. This means that it encourages your body to burn fat, instead of muscle, for fuel. This is extremely important when bodybuilding or decreasing weight. Clenbuterol helps you to retain your lean muscle mass and cut out the fat instead.
    Because of its capacity as a bronchodilator, Clenbuterol opens up the airways. That is, because of Clenbuterol, you have a greater amount of oxygen flowing through your body. This is especially useful during workouts. More oxygen means that exercising would become easier for you as you won’t be easily fatigued.
    Another benefit of Clenbuterol is its capability to help maintain muscle mass. While it is not a steroid and would not give you any incredible muscle shape or form, it would increase or at the very least preserve what you already have. Circling back to burning fat, it is important to note that the more muscle mass you retain the higher your metabolic rate.
    Generally, if you are searching for a way to get you over the threshold of your weight loss goal, Clenbuterol is the drug for you.
    When Can You Start A Clenbuterol Cycle?

    Before starting a Clen cycle, you need to get one thing absolutely straight. Clenbuterol is not a wonder on entry drug. You will not see dramatic changes within a day of using it. It is a supplement that aids correct food plans, and a good exercise regimen. This being said, if you are morbidly obese, Clenbuterol will not make you immediately slim.
    However, combining Clen with a rigorous exercise regimen and a good diet would definitely deliver favorable results.
    For the best results though, Clenbuterol is better used when you are well and fully into the cutting phase and are already lean. Here, Clenbuterol can be effective in pushing you over the line. The bottom line is this though, if you have a lot of weight to lose, Clenbuterol will scarcely help you. However, if you have already lost considerable weight, Clenbuterol can let you reach your goal.
    Is It Safe For Women?

    People consider steroids to be less safe for women than they are for men. But that is not so with Clenbuterol. The reason for this is that Clenbuterol isn’t a steroid but an anabolic supplement. Thus it doesn’t have any real adverse effects on women. In fact, a lot of women have responded quite positively to Clenbuterol. Because of this, it has become quite popular with women. There are other reasons why this is so.

    Women generally have a harder time burning fat compared to guys. However, the thermogenic properties of Clen allow fat to burn much more faster in women.
    Another reason why Clenbuterol is popular with women is that it doesn’t have very severe side effects. Although, women have to use a lower dosage because they are more sensitive to the effects both good and bad.
    What Happens After A Cycle?

    The effects of Clenbuterol cycles isn’t uniform. This is because the results of a cycle vary from one person to the next. However, there are some general effects that can be noticed after using Clenbuterol.
    For example, after a Clenbuterol cycle, you should expect to see a drop in body fat percentage. You can also expect to notice a lean and toned physique, muscle definition, weight loss between 7-12lbs and firmer muscles.

    Some people wonder if liquid Clenbuterol is better or more efficient than the pill form of Clen. To be honest, there are not really any big differences regarding the performance of the pill forms and the liquid forms of Clenbuterol. However, some people say that the liquid form gets into the system faster and thus takes control easier.
    But some say they prefer the pill form of Clenbuterol because it is easier to measure. The point, though, is that you should go with whichever form you are most comfortable with.
    Clen Side Effects

    A lot has been said about the side effects of Clenbuterol. Online blogs have a way of manufacturing a lot of misinformation and have contributed, in a way, to the misconception about Clenbuterol. A common misconception is that Clenbuterol is a steroid and as such, would have the side effects of common steroids. This, however, could be no farther than the truth. Clenbuterol isn’t a steroid, but rather an anabolic supplement. It could also be used as a bronchodilator.
    This means that the side effects of Clenbuterol are relatively mild. Some of the side effects include

    • Shakes
    • Headaches and/or migraines
    • Inability to sleep/insomnia
    • High body temperature
    • Excessive sweating
    • Anxiety
    • Muscle cramps
    • Reduction in potassium and taurine levels
    • Dizziness/lightheadedness

    One big side effect of Clenbuterol is that it is extremely hard on your heart. That is why it is advisable for people with heart problems or with a history of cardiac problems to not use Clenbuterol.

    Some of the side effects that affect the heart are;

    • Heart palpitations
    • Blood pressure irregularities
    • Increased heart rate
    • Irregular heartbeat
    • Enlarged heart muscle

    You can avoid having these side effects by taking some simple precautions.

    • Firstly, you have to know your limit. Discovering your limit or optimum dosage is important if you want to avoid the harmful effects of Clenbuterol.
    • You can deal with the reduction of depleted levels of Potassium by supplementing your diet with electrolytes and taurine.
    • Take needed breaks and avoid cycling Clen for a long period of time.
    • To reduce the effects of insomnia, you can take Clenbuterol at any time before 4 pm.
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    Can u take Clen longer if u take 1mg of ketotifen daily

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    Yes, 1 to 2 mg of Keto, you can use for longer periods.
    But it is a stim...so you should not use it forever.
    I much prefer the 2weeks on 2 weeks off style combined with Yohimbine and some form of fasted work...

    I have people that prefer using lower doses for longer periods of time with ketotifen.
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