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    Default Superdrol Methasterone Cycle Guide



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    Superdrol Methasterone Cycle Guide

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    Superdrol (SD) is marketed as a 'pro-hormone' (PH) in the post-ban era of pro-hormones. Following the ban of most pro-hormonal substances in the States, including the likes of 1-test, 1-AD, 4-AD, M1T, etc, Designer Supplements designed this 'pro-hormone' based on the steroid Masteron, with an additional methyl group attached to the 17th carbon position. It is described as a cross between anavar and masteron, with the virtual inability for aromatisation to estrogen. It is highly anabolic (400-800% more so than methyl-test) and a lot less androgenic (~20% of methyl-test). Superdrol has hence been given the name Methasteron.


    Despite being marketed as a supplement available legally and deemed another 'pro-hormone' or 'pro-steroid' by many, there is nothing very 'pro' about SD. In reality, SD is a designer steroid, and that is what the reader must primarily understand. It is methylated, so will cause stress on the liver, and it is an anabolic/androgenic steroid, thus it has the potential to give side effects normally seen with such anabolic androgenic steroid (AAS) use. It will shut your natural testosterone production down, and PCT (post-cycle therapy) is not only recommended, but frankly required.


    It should also be noted that due to the steroidal nature of SD, those under the age of 21 should not consider the use of SD, which could be detrimental in a number of ways.


    Superdrol Methasterone Cycle Guide
    SD is sold in 10mg capsules. For those who have not used SD before, it may be a good idea to start off on 10mg as a single dose each day (ed) for at least the first few days/week. Those who have used SD before, or those who are in the range of 200lbs+ or have more experience with other pro-hormones/AAS should most likely want to start with 20mg ed. Dosages should be split where possible, 10mg in the morning, 10mg 12hrs later. Most users report that when running for longer than 3 weeks, the gains seem to cease in the 4th week. This has led to many people thinking that 3 week cycles of SD are the best option in terms of gains and sides and this also is beneficial due to the harsh nature of SD on lipid values (see Side Effects of Superdrol). A good cycle is 20mg ed for 3 weeks, with a 2-3 week PCT. Others have found success employing a 2 week on, 1 week off using a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM; e.g. Nolvadex) or Aromatase Inhibitor during the week off.
    PCT will involve either Nolvadex (Tamoxifen,)


    Superdrol Methasterone Cycle Guide Side effects
    As with all AAS, SD is not side effect free. However, when comparing to harsher compounds such as M1T, I would have to say SD fairs well in the sides department. Due to virtually zero aromatisation to estrogen, water retention in theory will be low (and in practise is low), and bloating should not occur such as one would see with an AAS oral like dianabol. As SD is said to have diuretic properties, you may well experience a loss of water weight during the initial period of use. Also, I have yet to see a case of gynecomastia (gyno - development of breast tissue in males) induced by SD usage. I would not rule this out, and always recommend to anyone who is doing a steroidal cycle of some sort to have Nolvadex on hand in case gyno occurs. SD could perhaps induce gyno through the progesterone route however this is mere speculation, and it certainly is not worth adding an anti-estrogen on cycle. Due to its low androgenic activity, one would expect androgenic sides to be low, and indeed, most users find little in the way of increased bodily hair, acne, hair loss (male pattern baldness - MPB), etc, however as SD does have some androgenic activity, and if you are genetically prone to MPB you may well increase this process while on SD.


    The main side effects that seem to occur in many SD users are:


    Cramping/painful "pumps" (specifically lower back)
    Lethargy - in extreme cases people have reported feeling like they had a hangover for the duration of the cycle.
    Painful shin-splints, often making cardio very difficult
    Substantial increases in LDL cholesterol levels and reduction of HDL levels
    SD is methylated so one must remember liver stress is a possibility
    Possible loss in libido near end of cycle
    Because of these sides (some being more serious than others) there are certain supplements that in my opinion, one should always employ whilst on a cycle of SD (see Necessary Supplements on Superdrol below).


    Diet on Superdrol
    Feedback would indicate that SD is not a good steroid to use for cutting. SD works best in a calorific surplus environment, and more specifically, in an environment where carbohydrates are high. For this reason, SD makes more of a good 'bulking' steroid, however one can easily use SD to put on mass whilst putting on little (if any) fat. Obviously this requires manipulation of diet so that protein and carbs are high, with plenty of good Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs), but making sure that your calories are clean (good, complex carbs). Glycogen storage is dramatically elevated while on Superdrol and as such, complex carbohydrate consumption should be high, to not only assist in gains, but to potentially reduce the onset of lethargy and the likelihood of hypoglycaemia. You want to ensure intakes that are above maintenance calories. However, SD is not a shield against fat gain and as such it is advisable to consume calories at a level where you were gaining quality weight at a suitable rate before starting the cycle, as opposed to suddenly increasing them well beyond your current intake.


    Coming back to the EFAs point - this is very important due to the fact that SD will significantly affect your lipid values. This is not hypothesis, but rather reality as many testers have had blood work done prior to and after using SD, and the vast majority have seen HDL going significantly low and LDL skyrocketing. One's diet on SD should make sure that it is full of EFAs, as the diet of a bodybuilder should always be anyway!


    Optional supplements on Superdrol.
    SD is methylated as mentioned, and being a 17?-alkylated compound, stress will be inevitably put on the liver. The most common method employed by users of methylated steroids would be supplementing with Milk Thistle, available from health stores, supplement stores and some bulk powder stores. The Milk Thistle that you purchase needs to be standardised to at least 80% silymarin (the active compound), and users should run 1000mg ed of milk thistle (giving 800mg silymarin). Other liver protection aids, such as N-Acetyl Carnitine (NAC), etc, may also be employed if the user so desires.


    If cramping occurs, as it may likely do, 5g ed of Taurine as well as potassium (add bananas into diet) will definitely help. If you have not used Taurine before, start off on 3g ed (take it pre-workout if possible, about 30mins prior to exercise) and build up to 5g. Taurine is available at very low prices from online bulk powder suppliers.


    The major issue with SD usage as discussed is the 'trashing' of lipid levels. Thus I would never recommend a cycle of SD without the user taking the precaution of supplementing with cholesterol regulating products. One very good product, which is comparable to prescription statins and other products for cholesterol problems, is Red Yeast Rice (RYR or cholestin). A minimum of 1200mg of RYR ed for the duration of the cycle including PCT should help to maintain healthy levels of LDL and HDL. NOW foods sell a good form of RYR, which includes CoQ10 and some Milk Thistle as well as Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA). One problem of supplementing with RYR is that it depletes the heart of CoQ10, so when using RYR one must also supplement with CoQ10. 60-100mg ed of CoQ10 should be sufficient whilst on RYR.


    Due to loss of libido being a possible issue with some (but most users do not report this to any great depth), one may consider the use of Tribulus Terrestris as a supplement to include in one's PCT.
    Or one may Run a low dose of Testosterone to negate libido sides.
    Also, in view of the lethargy that SD promotes, some users may wish to supplement with caffeine or other stimulants if they so wish. Vitamin C also helps here.


    Example of a Superdrol Cycle - (values given are every day - ed)


    3-5 days prior to cycle (supplement loading):


    1000mg Milk Thistle
    1200mg RYR
    60mg CoQ10
    3g Taurine
    Week 1:


    20mg Superdrol, split doses
    Supplement stack*
    Week 2:


    20mg Superdrol, split doses
    Supplement stack*
    Week 3:


    20mg Superdrol, split doses
    Supplement stack*
    Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)




    Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) PCT Day 1:


    60mg Tamoxifen (taken all at once when convenient)
    Supplement stack*
    Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) PCT Days 2-11:


    40mg Tamoxifen (taken all at once when convenient)
    Supplement stack* (up to days 5-7)
    Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) PCT Days 12-21:


    20mg Tamoxifen
    Optional extra: Add Tribulus throughout PCT.


    *Supplement stack:


    1000mg Milk Thistle
    1200mg RYR
    60mg CoQ10
    5g Taurine
    Water intake should be high throughout the cycle.


    Generally time on + PCT should equal time off, so one should ideally wait 6 weeks after PCT finishes before starting a new cycle of SD. SD can be stacked with other 'pro-hormones,' but I do not recommend stacking with those that are methylated as this will put too much unnecessary strain on the liver, even with Milk Thistle supplementation.


    Lighter individuals (<170lbs) and those less adventurous may want to consider starting off on 10mg ed for the first 3-7 days to assess how they react to it, and maybe increasing to 20mg ed from the second week onwards. Those that don't respond well after 2 weeks to 20mg ed may also wish to consider going up to 30mg ed, but sides can be a lot worse at this dosage in many. People may also want to consider running it for 4 weeks, and although the above is an example cycle I would recommend, a 4-week cycle would be fine; however I would not recommend anything longer than 4 weeks, due to lipid issues and diminishing returns/gains ceasing. The reason I suggest 3 weeks is many people see very little in the way of gains in the fourth week, and it is often unnecessary to go to the fourth week bearing in mind the side effects associated with SD (which can be cumulative).
    While strength gains may appear alarmingly rapid, they do not come with a proportional increase in strength of connective tissue. As such, strict form and a level headed approach to training should be maintained, to reduce the likelihood of injury.

    Dosages and Uses

    The recommended use for this product is about 20mg to 40mg per day, depending on goals. With the cycle not being any longer than 6 weeks. Superdrol has been widely reported as being abused, with guys staying on cycle as long as 12 weeks, with devastating results on their liver functions.The product is toxic to your liver from day one of use, but the problems only become permanent if the liver is not given a proper break and allowed to recover. Since liver support helps minimize possible risk of side effects, the use of on-cycle support like N2Guard has been a mainstay for guys doing superdrol cycles.Cycles

    Since using this steroid in the first 4 to 6 weeks of a cycle would ensure rapid and solid gains, superdrol became a favorite drug for bodybuilders to jump-start their cycles. This leaves the slower released injectable steroids to kick in during the later part of the cycle. Allowing users to solidify the gains made on methasterone while still making progress in strength.This product has always stacked well with most injectable steroids or other hormones that do not have a c-17aa modification. Keep in mind, your liver would not be able to handle another oral stacked with superdrol. For bulking, deca durabolin and 19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene- 3,17 dione are the best stacked compounds, and for cutting, trenbolone. Since this steroid is particularly tough and hard to breakdown, this product is not recommended for use for any longer than 4 weeks due to severe liver toxicity. Though, some experienced bodybuilders who use N2Guard during the cycle report using superdrol for 6 weeks with good results.Half-life

    As with most oral steroids, the half-life of superdrol ranges between 8 to 9 hours, with users taking the product as many of 4 times per day to maintain a steady blood level.Side Effects

    This steroid does not aromatize, so it will not cause any estrogenic side effects, so water retention is never a problem with this product. Some users report gynecomastia symptoms that seem to come more from this hormone taking up more of the SHBG activity; thus, leaving more free testosterone to be turned into estrogen. There is no science to support this theory, but what is certain is that it's a chemical impossibility for methyldrostanolone to turn into an estrogen.Some side effects, like oily skin and acne, seem to be reported but not as much when compared to dianabol or anadrol. The strong androgenic nature of this hormone does cause some of the most common androgen side-effects like loss of hair on the head and increased hair growth on the body. Again, this is not as bad as winstrol or heavy doses of anavar.Trade Names


    • Superdrol by Anabolic Extreme
    • Superdron
    • M-drol by competitive edge labs
    • Beastdrol
    • Monsterdrol by Just Add Muscle
    • Maxdrol by Samson health labs
    • Drol-M
    • SD Extreme
    • SG-10 by LGI
    • Phreak
    • Superbolin by MyoPharma

    Chemical Structure

    The nomenclature is: 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol
    On paper superdrol looks like a masteron hormone, with the addition of a 17aa group, and lack of an ester chain. This modification not only makes it orally active, but it increases the strength and anabolic action of this steroid quite dramatically. Adding a 17aa group makes a steroid more potent when activating androgen receptors. This is an unintended effect, since the main reason steroids receive the addition of a 17aa is to make them survive first pass through the liver, thus, making them effective when used orally.
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    nice post bro, im going to copy this to the articles forum, and I also gave you an extra 35 credits for the post!
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    worth a bump for our community / readers!
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    Anyone have any info on Superdrol Precontest. Ive run Superdrol once, it worked well, so well i had to cut my daily dose of 20mg down to 10mg daily,

    Anyhow, was curious who has run this pre contest, i know some guys run anadrol pre contest and aware by it for fullness and muscle water retention without spilling over subcutaneously , so i was curious if anyone had experience with the superdrol before a show

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Anyone have any info on Superdrol Precontest. Ive run Superdrol once, it worked well, so well i had to cut my daily dose of 20mg down to 10mg daily,

    Anyhow, was curious who has run this pre contest, i know some guys run anadrol pre contest and aware by it for fullness and muscle water retention without spilling over subcutaneously , so i was curious if anyone had experience with the superdrol before a show

    Member just asked this question main forum so I'm asking here to
    how long did you run it for?
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    I couldn't bear it more the 2-3 weeks I think maybe even less, I forget exactly but I blew up in days
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    Awesome read
     

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    agree but man i don't think i could ever run this superdrol again lol, whoooo it killed me
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    Great wrote up you covered every angle!
     

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    indeed this was a good piece
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    Man I have 12.5 mg and 10 mg
    But they are slightly different in molecules but are both considered SD.would taking one of each kill me,lmao.but seriously would it make it more potent mixing them .it would be 22.5 mg a day
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolt View Post
    Man I have 12.5 mg and 10 mg
    But they are slightly different in molecules but are both considered SD.would taking one of each kill me,lmao.but seriously would it make it more potent mixing them .it would be 22.5 mg a day
    And has anyone did the week on week off thing with SD?
     

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    nice pictures of Methasterone
    Superdrol (SD)
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    So a solid cycle consists of 20mg every day for 21 days, with 14 days PCT. Others have found success employing a 2 week on, 1 week off using a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM; e.g. Nolvadex) or Aromatase Inhibitor during the week off.
    PCT will involve either Nolvadex (Tamoxifen,)

    20mg superdrol dosage daily.


    3 Week cycle length duration.
    2 weeks PCT post cycle therpay with serm Nolvadex, and Clomid.


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    never heard of black label superdrol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    never heard of black label superdrol
    Its pretty strong and cheap.pm me if u want its location.
     

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    thnx bro, but its too strong for me, usd it before and had to reduce my superdrol dosage from 20mg daily to 10mg daily lmao, and it was still potent as hell at just 10mg
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    just noticed that the bottle of superdrol said "dry mass gains" im not so sure about that lol, i looked like a fucking water balloon when i took it and just after 1 week of the super-drol cycle to! I will say that much of it was muscle hydration and not too much subcutaneous water retention, which is exactly what we al want , but again it was just too strong lol,


    anyhow great read on super drol for anyone thinking about running a cycle with it
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    Yeah I read it is a different water retention like u mentioned.it blew me up fast.my favorite oral but I have not tried the magic tbol anavar mix everyone talks about in my neighborhood. Rumor has it that it gives solid gains and kills fat.lmao
     

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    solid gains, yeah sure, kills fat, thats bullshit. nothing personal to you bro lol, i know ur just talking about what you read or heard,
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    Well I was taking it with 750 test 600 master 500 tren.I lose fat fast on 500 mg test.and I have a really fast motabelism. So for me I was losing fat fast and gaining.I have a log on like 6 forums and have a couple pics.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    solid gains, yeah sure, kills fat, thats bullshit. nothing personal to you bro lol, i know ur just talking about what you read or heard,
    Oh shit ur talking about the var tbol mix.I ran tbol was not impressed 70 mg of geneza.never ran anavar.have both from pharmacon now.hope they are gtg
     

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    no idea what Pharmacon is, a brand? or a source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    no idea what Pharmacon is, a brand? or a source?
    Its a brand and a source.the are a good one but there are a lot of good ones
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    Oh lol well it's a great brand name! I could see it on shelves at GNC
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    Pharmacom are great, best ugl anavar by far !
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    I'm surprised pharmacon has not squeezed its way on here they are everywhere
     

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    yeah i never heard of them til you guys, but now that im thinking about it i seen their banners around, just didnt know what or who they were.
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    I have seen them around too but never tried them
     

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    dont do that ,
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    i edited your link out, please try to remember its not easy building and maintaining a site like this, and competition is a bitch! poachers will be banned!

    not that this was your intention, looked honest enough, but we get people pming our members to go to their forum, visit us, come here.

    well if i catch anyone poaching openly, or private through pm and find out, i will ban them!
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    now lets get back to some SD superdrol chat lol,
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    I just reordered more superdrol and tbol. I've noticed on days when I take 100mg of tbol I have a definite warming effect from it and I sweat a lot more during my workout. The superdrol I get is 50mg and it will kick you in the balls thats for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masher59 View Post
    I just reordered more superdrol and tbol. I've noticed on days when I take 100mg of tbol I have a definite warming effect from it and I sweat a lot more during my workout. The superdrol I get is 50mg and it will kick you in the balls thats for sure.
    50mg superdrol wtf, are you able to at least cut the tab in half, or is a capsule you must take all at once? thats a whole lot of superdrol for one dosage in my opinion. As for the tbol turinabol , i would like to give it ago in all honesty!

    How to you personally compare turinabol to dianabol masher?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    50mg superdrol wtf, are you able to at least cut the tab in half, or is a capsule you must take all at once? thats a whole lot of superdrol for one dosage in my opinion. As for the tbol turinabol , i would like to give it ago in all honesty!

    How to you personally compare turinabol to dianabol masher?
    The sdrol comes in capsules and you can pull apart and dump the powder if you want to take less than 50mg but fuck it it's time to grow just got to deal lmao. I feel pretty close to the same thing on the tbol and dbol but the the tbol seems to heat me up a bit more but I feel strong as hell on both of them.
     

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    50 is a lot no 10-30 should be plenty
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    Quote Originally Posted by jolt View Post
    50 is a lot no 10-30 should be plenty
    im with ya JOLT, masher is just a juice junkey lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    im with ya JOLT, masher is just a juice junkey lmao
    My liver numbers were x2 and x3 from 5 weeks of this 20-30 mg wowsers and I only drink water.
     

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    damn just seen this, and yeah you dont wanna fuck with your liver values!

    I am currently deciding on whether to add Superdrol or dianabol to my next cycle as a 2 or 3 week kick starter alongside some trenbolone acetate and hopefully some equipoise , winstrol and long r 3 Insuline-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1 Lr3)
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    5g of taurine a day for sdrol pumps. It worked for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Destructo View Post
    5g of taurine a day for sdrol pumps. It worked for me.
    you mean add the 5grams taurine daily along with your superdrol cycle, to help combat the super drol pumps pain, or are you saying you got sdrol like pumps from taurine?
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    Man I was gonna close with so.e liquid m1t but might just use the superdol at 20 mg
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    you mean add the 5grams taurine daily along with your superdrol cycle, to help combat the superdrol pumps pain, or are you saying you got sdrol like pumps from taurine?
    I take the Taurine when I use Tren or Sdrol because of the pumps. I was Still in the army last time I did tren and we did 5-6 mile runs all the time. The only way I could get through it was mega dosing taurine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Destructo View Post
    I take the Taurine when I use Tren or Sdrol because of the pumps. I was Still in the army last time I did tren and we did 5-6 mile runs all the time. The only way I could get through it was mega dosing taurine.
    oh, ok i see, makes more sense now lol, and yeah i could NOT imagine having to run with those kind of painful pumps, baking powder cocktails work well too, but more for lactic acid build , it use to be ""the secret"" back in the day during NFL combine / tryouts when doing as many reps as you can with with 225lbs , guys would down a shit load of baking soda to combat the lactic acid build up, i wonder if taurine would help
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    Different mechanism of action but yeah Taurine would definitely help as well as cordyceps. For a running boost I used injectable fast acting corticosteroids. I had a pretty groundbreaking thread about that on MindandMuscle forums back in the day.

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    Superdrol gets me shredded and makes me beast strong. It is one of my faves. DMZ is supposed to be stronger but I never felt like it was. The ultradrol as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Destructo View Post
    Different mechanism of action but yeah Taurine would definitely help as well as cordyceps. For a running boost I used injectable fast acting corticosteroids. I had a pretty groundbreaking thread about that on MindandMuscle forums back in the day.

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    Superdrol gets me shredded and makes me beast strong. It is one of my faves. DMZ is supposed to be stronger but I never felt like it was. The ultradrol as well.
    In all honesty i never heard anyone say DMZ was stronger than Superdrol, and weve had some pretty extensive threads here on dmz and DMZ 2.0 i think they called it and i cant remember anyone saying it was better, or stronger then Sdrol
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    I believe it was probably only the manufacturers that were touting that. Really it should be the same potency from a chemistry standpoint, just a smidgen slower acting, due to the stereo molecules having to be cleaved in the gut (or wherever). Honestly to me that shit is not even comparable to sdrol, at least for me the difference was vast. Also to note I felt like M1T was the strongest designer I myself ever used, and that was pre FIRST ban potency, shit was insane. I only wish I could have applied what I know now to that experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Destructo View Post
    I believe it was probably only the manufacturers that were touting that. Really it should be the same potency from a chemistry standpoint, just a smidgen slower acting, due to the stereo molecules having to be cleaved in the gut (or wherever). Honestly to me that shit is not even comparable to sdrol, at least for me the difference was vast. Also to note I felt like M1T was the strongest designer I myself ever used, and that was pre FIRST ban potency, shit was insane. I only wish I could have applied what I know now to that experience.
    Yeah man Methyl - Testosterone M1-T was sick! We use to have a store here many years ago that sold it, and they did quite well with it, as people loved it, problem was it was dosed to high, so a bottle of M1t lasted forever, as it was so strog guys didnt need much, i still every once ina while hear guys asking if its still good as they have some saved from back then,

    For me thought, Superdrol was much much better and stronger than M1-t , i had to cut my 20mg daily dosage of superdrol in half down to 10mg daily and still got sick gains fast, but in the end i had to quite early as 10mg was even too much on my system,
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