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    Dianabol Information


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    Pharmaceutical Name: Methandrostenolone / Methandienone
    Common Brand/Trade/Slang Names: Dianabol, D-Bol, Anabol (Pinks),Naposim, Methanabol, Danabol, Reforvit B
    Chemical Structure: 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one
    Delivery Method: Normally Orally
    Half Life: Approx 4hrs
    Typical Vial/Tablet doses: 5mg/10mg/50mg

    Background
    Dianabol. No other steroid conjures up more nostalgia in the bodybuilding community. For decades this has been the mainstay of both novice and experienced users. Other steroids may fall out of favour, or indeed appear to be the new Holy Grail, but Dianabol is probably the most used steroid of them all, and is often heralded 'The Breakfast of Champions'.

    Dianabol (often shortened to D-Bol), was actually a brand name given to the steroid compound Methandrostenolone by the Swiss pharmaceutical and chemical company Ciba. Though production ceased many years ago, the brand name lives on and is still the name by which the steroid is most commonly referred. Nowadays, there are a host of 'underground laboratories' that manufacture this steroid.
    Even today, despite steroid users becoming more accustomed to, and have the finance to fund exotic cycles with many different compounds, Dianabol is as popular as ever, owing to the fact that it is not only very cheap and relatively widespread, but results are nothing short of breathtaking, both in terms of mass gained and increases in strength.
    Suggested Cycles/Uses
    Prospective steroid users will typically look toward D-Bol as their first steroid experience. This is understandable given the unease that they may possess in respect of using inject able steroids. A 4-6 week course of 25mg-30mg per day should yield a pleasing outcome for novice users, whilst minimising side effects. As you would expect, more advanced users will benefit from higher dosages, though the dose/result ratio is not uniformly linear, and will see benefits tapering off strongly above 60mg-70mg per day, a situation also compounded with perhaps unacceptable side effects. However, given the nature of Dianabol, this situation is rarely encountered, as more experienced users will prefer to stack it with an injectable 'base' steroid such as Testosterone or Nandrolone (Deca) in order that the D-Bol dosages are kept modest.

    Due to the relatively short half life, the daily dose is usually spread throughout the day, typically three or four times, with meals. Alternatively, some users prefer to take the full daily dose in one sitting, around 30 minutes before their workout. Dosing in this way can give rise to incredible 'pumps' during the workout, providing the user with a very real sense of vigour and increased performance. There is an additional perceived benefit in that a single dosage will result in a slightly greater uptake of the drug. Whilst this is true, it is somewhat of a fallacy due to the fact that any benefit is countered by an increased in liver stress associated with an increased load borne by the liver from a single dosing schedule. Additionally, it will create a spike in blood concentrations, swiftly followed by a crash; a situation which is normally desired to be avoided by users.
    Dianabol is particularly suited to mass gaining goals, where the primary aim is to gain as much muscle as possible, with the user typically adjusting their diets to accommodate possibly 5000 calories or more. Testosterone/Deca/Dianabol is a superb combination with this goal in mind, two examples of which are shown below:
    (Novice)
    Testosterone (Enanthate/Cypionate/Sustanon) 500mg pw, weeks 1-11
    Deca 400mg pw, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol 25mg ed, weeks 1-4

    (Intermediate)
    Testosterone (Enanthate/Cypionate/Sustanon) 750mg pw, weeks 1-11
    Deca 600mg pw, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol 35mg ed, weeks 1-4

    Due to the sometimes excessive water retentive properties of Dianabol, it makes it a poor choice of compound in cycles where the user is looking to shed fat. Cardiovascular activity will feature heavily during periods of cutting and these endeavours will be greatly hampered by the water retention and the painful 'pumps' that often ensue.

    Possible Side Effects
    Dianabol is a strong anabolic, with moderate to high androgenic qualities. Acne, oily skin and body hair growth cannot be ruled out and they are often encountered from a dose of just 20mg or 25mg per day. Increases in the rate of male pattern baldness in those susceptible to the condition is also a concern, with many users reporting that it is perhaps as harsh to the hairline as Testosterone. However, unlike testosterone which is readily converted to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) by the 5-α reductase enzyme, Dianabol, although liable and capable of reduction to the androgenically stronger dihydromethandrostenolone, does not have a strong affinity to do so, therefore this metabolite is of little concern.

    Dianabol is also capable of interaction with the enzyme aromatase resulting in the possibility of estrogenic side effects. Gynecomastia may become apparent even very early into a cycle, so the user must always ensure that they have the necessary drugs to treat the condition at the earliest possible opportunity. A Selective Estrogen Modulator (SERM) such as Tamoxifen (brand name Nolvadex) is usually used in these instances, perhaps with the addition of an anti-estrogen such as Proviron or Arimidex which will help hinder further estrogenic conversion. (For more information see the articleCombating Oestrogens & Progesterone).
    Significant water retention is also a feature of dianabol use. Large initial weight gains are largely attributable to the user holding water, giving the appearance of bloatedness in the body, neck and face (moon face). Such mass gains must not be assumed to be solely muscular, and users should expect that post cycle weight losses will be significant.
    As mentioned above, dianabol is hepatotoxic i.e. stressful to the liver. This is due to the alkylation which is added to the steroid molecule to enable it to survive the first pass hepatic metabolism and thus greatly increase the drugs bioavailability. Unfortunately, this alkylation may affect clinical liver values, (markers of liver function obtainable from a blood test) so use of such oral steroids are usually limited both in dose and duration, in an attempt to minimise potential liver damaging issues.
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    bumping a solid read
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    Was using google to look up some info on dbol & this popped up. Great article. I'm currently running dbol for the first time & I can definitely say the estrogen conversion is the worst characteristic of it, imo! I am sensitive to ai's & usually I can run .5 mg every few days & be good, but I am taking the typical eod right now. Once you find the sweet spot with that, all is good!
     

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    haven't tried it, but considered it. think i'll just stick with deca and sus for now.
    all that you read here is only for entertainment purposes.

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    Good breakdown. Finding the sweet spot is tough but Iíve found mine to be Dbol at 30mg as a pre and proviron 25mg and armidex at .5 o3d. Iíve been as high as 70 but I was a bit emotional and just erratic and had to move my AI to .5 ed to calm things back down.


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    Beef, surprised you have never used dianabol before. And I am NOT a fan of dbol in any way! Never thought it was very good unless it was solely being used to jump start your cycle for the first 2-3 weeks maybe! Aside from that, I can’t take the bloating and back pain!

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