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    Default Anabolic Steroids Positive Effects when Stacked With Vitamin D and Calcium throughout Cycle. Female Study

    Positive effects of anabolic steroids, vitamin D and calcium on muscle mass, bone mineral density and clinical function after a hip fracture. A randomised study of 63 women.






    A total of 63 women who had an operation for a fracture of the hip was randomly allocated to one year of treatment either with anabolic steroids, vitamin D and calcium (anabolic group) or with calcium only (control group). The thigh muscle volume was measured by quantitative CT. The bone mineral density of the hip, femur and tibia was assessed by quantitative CT and dual-energy x-ray absorptiometry and of the heel by quantitative ultrasound. Quantitative CT showed that the anabolic group did not lose muscle volume during the first 12 months whereas the control group did (p<0.01). There was less bone loss in the proximal tibia in the anabolic group than in the control group. The speed of gait and the Harris hip score were significantly better in the anabolic group after six and 12 months. Anabolic steroids, even in this moderate dose, given in combination with vitamin D and calcium had a beneficial effect on muscle volume, bone mineral density and clinical function in this group of elderly women

    And Now The "No Shit" Award Goes To.....Hedström M1, Sjöberg K, Brosjö E, Aström K, Sjöberg H, Dalén N.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Positive effects of anabolic steroids, vitamin D and calcium on muscle mass, bone mineral density and clinical function after a hip fracture. A randomised study of 63 women.






    A total of 63 women who had an operation for a fracture of the hip was randomly allocated to one year of treatment either with anabolic steroids, vitamin D and calcium (anabolic group) or with calcium only (control group). The thigh muscle volume was measured by quantitative CT. The bone mineral density of the hip, femur and tibia was assessed by quantitative CT and dual-energy x-ray absorptiometry and of the heel by quantitative ultrasound. Quantitative CT showed that the anabolic group did not lose muscle volume during the first 12 months whereas the control group did (p<0.01). There was less bone loss in the proximal tibia in the anabolic group than in the control group. The speed of gait and the Harris hip score were significantly better in the anabolic group after six and 12 months. Anabolic steroids, even in this moderate dose, given in combination with vitamin D and calcium had a beneficial effect on muscle volume, bone mineral density and clinical function in this group of elderly women

    And Now The "No Shit" Award Goes To.....Hedström M1, Sjöberg K, Brosjö E, Aström K, Sjöberg H, Dalén N.
    Looked for study on this other day...
    Couldn't find the right one but women and men with hip replacement surgery after age of I think 60, percent of death high from another cause from the strain of muscle loss and low anabolic hormone output...

    They studied Anabolic steroids and it helped in recovery with less incidence of being weak from deterioration onsetting these other issues. Side effects for testosterone were a concern in alot of men and women cardiovascular related from being over weight and high bp etc etc...

    They began looking at SARMS in particular LGD for this with less sides being selective to tissues... just something I was looking for i had read years ago...

    My opinion is stay in shape and address replacing hormones at time of failure and we will have better chance.. as far as SARMS... THEY been looking for something that works without sides as anabolic steroids, but believe they exaggerate these sides because they want us to go their route only.... and they say if fda approved Anabolic for certain conditions it would bankrupt Medicare....



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    so was there a particular aas used in the study, or is it just a matter of choice which to use. what was the dosages if they were given as well as the amounts of calcium/vit d.
    i think muscle mechanic answered my next question as to how this affects men as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Looked for study on this other day...
    Couldn't find the right one but women and men with hip replacement surgery after age of I think 60, percent of death high from another cause from the strain of muscle loss and low anabolic hormone output...

    They studied Anabolic steroids and it helped in recovery with less incidence of being weak from deterioration onsetting these other issues. Side effects for testosterone were a concern in alot of men and women cardiovascular related from being over weight and high bp etc etc...

    They began looking at SARMS in particular LGD for this with less sides being selective to tissues... just something I was looking for i had read years ago...

    My opinion is stay in shape and address replacing hormones at time of failure and we will have better chance.. as far as SARMS... THEY been looking for something that works without sides as anabolic steroids, but believe they exaggerate these sides because they want us to go their route only.... and they say if fda approved Anabolic for certain conditions it would bankrupt Medicare....



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    Who is “They” regarding approving anabolic steroids for certain ailments would bankrupt Medicare??

    ive never heard that argument in my entire life
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgb View Post
    so was there a particular aas used in the study, or is it just a matter of choice which to use. what was the dosages if they were given as well as the amounts of calcium/vit d.
    i think muscle mechanic answered my next question as to how this affects men as well.
    Mhmm maybe I missed part of it , I’m sure the actual specifics are reported with study , I just copied the Abstract and Conclusion
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    I went back looking for specifics on anabolic steroid used and dose etc but ran into more of Dr Hedström published studies or collaborative studies . Here is HGH DOUBLE BLIND STUDY!!

    Positive effects of short-term growth hormone treatment on lean body mass and BMC after a hip fracture: a double-blind placebo-controlled pilot study in 20 patients.


    Randomized controlled trialHedström M, et al. Acta Orthop Scand. 2004.
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    BACKGROUND: A catabolic state develops after a hip fracture, with loss of muscle and bone tissue. Growth hormone (GH) treatment has been shown to exert anabolic effects during other catabolic states. We investigated whether GH given postoperatively to elderly hip fracture patients could increase serum insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) and reduce the loss of lean body mass and bone mineral content (BMC) without considerable side effects.
    PATIENTS AND METHODS: We randomized 20 patients operated on for a hip fracture to a double-blind placebo-controlled 4-week study with daily subcutaneous injections of GH or placebo. The patients were followed for another 2 months after termination of GH treatment.
    RESULTS: Serum IGF-I and the IGF-I binding protein 1 (IGFBP-1) were measured by specific radioimmunoassay (RIA) technique. BMC and lean body mass were assessed by dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry and quantitative computed tomography. Serum IGF-I increased significantly during GH treatment, which also preserved lean body mass and BMC without serious adverse events.
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    15370581 [Indexed for MEDLINE]



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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Who is “They” regarding approving anabolic steroids for certain ailments would bankrupt Medicare??

    ive never heard that argument in my entire life
    Will pull it up. It's regarding TRT for anti-aging and other conditions.
    If approved be FDA Medicare would fold..
    It was an article, they are critics in article...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Will pull it up. It's regarding TRT for anti-aging and other conditions.
    If approved be FDA Medicare would fold..
    It was an article, they are critics in article...


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    i would think that the number of people who actually would endeavor to start trt would not be as significant as one might think. also being older, does not mean that there will not be any issues with health just because a person has a trt protocol. especially if the care-giver is only interested in getting a person in so-called normal range, instead of administering a level that is conducive to a better life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Will pull it up. It's regarding TRT for anti-aging and other conditions.
    If approved be FDA Medicare would fold..
    It was an article, they are critics in article...


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    Medicare is always on the cusp of being bankrupted

    i would love to see a study done on the overall Health cost effectiveness / savings for those in their 40’s and 50’s who are prescribed TRT testosterone replacement therapy .

    Say men between 45 and 55 years old who have been on testosterone therapy for at least a year but two to three years would be ideal

    I think the overall savings to insurance companies and your wallet would be tremendous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Medicare is always on the cusp of being bankrupted

    i would love to see a study done on the overall Health cost effectiveness / savings for those in their 40’s and 50’s who are prescribed TRT testosterone replacement therapy .

    Say men between 45 and 55 years old who have been on testosterone therapy for at least a year but two to three years would be ideal

    I think the overall savings to insurance companies and your wallet would be tremendous
    Yes. I am looking for article I mentioned reading..
    Found other stuff so far instead.
    What I meant was TRT for anti-aging and life-extension putting levels at optimum..
    Fda only approves for critia of pituitary and hypogondism for most part not just low testosterone.. this and what alot of people are already doing on for low t anti-aging isn't cover by insurance..
    I did find a good read by LifeExtension and FDA warnings and studies flawed on cardiovascular and heart attack commercials and Black Box Warnings. Basically they deterring TRT because of increases in it. And sadly the cost is jacked up so high for everything required for insurance to cover it with lots of labs and test required...
    Example my labs cost probably 650$-850$ 2x a year at least... I have to pay 500$ deductible before insurance pays 80% of labs!! I can get those lab test cheaper on my own like privateMdlads I think it's called online order and labs sent to them from labcorp.. I may not have insurance now being self employed my plan running out i carried over. I may get TRT thru EHormones if he has a place for me because of cost losing my policy. Or place around home that does no FDA approved pellets, this would be 120$ month with labs and they don't care what else I do between as they explained being it's not FDA approved so route not thru insurance isn't as regulated!!!
    The whole thing rediculous and the costs just isn't feesable and designed to pocket money somewhere...

    I will see if I can at least put that one article in a thread that i ran across searching yesterday. It's a good read and talks about addressing aging and reducing incidence in cost overall with health by being healthier!!!

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