Beginners Questions--vets. Please Help!!!

I am extreemly new @ enhanced bodybuilding (hormones)
but i have been excited about what i am seeing with this IGF-1LR3 hormone.

i am 5'9" & 194 lbs.
a little jiggly right now (i guess 17%ish bfp.)

have been all natural accept for over the counter suppliments.

i would love to try a month cycle of the lR3, but have no clue as to what i need, where to get it & how much it costs!?!

i have been reading everyones cycle journals & have a good idea about how to use it. What i dont know is how to inject it, or what paraphanellia i need to properly administer it.
(bacterial water, certain syringes, storage--ect...)


I have some questions that i could not find answers for:

i also have a question as to what type of suppliments i can take with it.

would it be wise to take the LR3 in cunjunction with a hemo-diolator such as, i cant think of the name, but i normally take the one in the big white bottle, made by physer- with pretty great results.

is it wise to take any multi-viatamines wile taking this stuff?

Why is the LR3 so much better than an HGH such as Hemotropin or saizen or norditropin??

Why is the LR3 so site specific??(body part specific)
Wouldnt it be better to use an HGH that would be free-flowing through the blood stream & administered evenly in the body?


ANY help would be greatly appreciated by all of you verterans!!!
i have read

Don't know how much help you will be getting as most of us are confused by your post.

You want to run L3 IGF-1, yet you have not done any AAS cycles.

I do believe you should be reading up on this product, as for a beginner it may be out of your league.

What I am trying to say is that you should gain some experience in AAS before using HGH or IGF-1. Because to maximize the use of these products which are expensive you will also need to run a cycle of AAS.

Read and Learn my friend.

AAS

O.k.


then help me out bro, what does AAS Stand for??.

What cycle should a "Beginner" start with?

Son this is one of the more advanced AAS boards on the net and soon you will be getting the old timers here upset.

You need to checkout other boards and read and read and read.

I will help you out here: AAS=Anabolic and Androgenic Steroids

A beginner should be doing a good injectable cycle for around 10 weeks. Using Test and Deca.

Go to the IGF-1 forum and you will get all the info you need. I don't think a beginner has to run a cycle of test before using IGF-1. Good luck!

Yamaha12

I sounds like you need to do some serious reading on everything from Drug Profiles, Dosages, injection sites,proper stack -staggering-pyramod thearys to the synergistics of L3 IFG-1 and aas.....and on ...and on ....and on...
You'll get there
and hopefully you will go knowledgable and not jump in with one opinion or half the info.
It can be harmful and/or a waste of money

Follow the advice of these fine bros before me. That stuff is out of ur league. If your so gun ho for doing something then do the "beginners stack" of deca & test for 10 weeks and dont forget to include clomid at the end and novladex to have o hand.
Peace bro!

ok

Here is where i stand guys.

I have no AAS experience.

Why would i want to go research something that i do not know where to begin to research?

It seems more legit for me to ask the pro's who have been doing this for many years, specifically what i need, where to get it, how to cycle it (everything).

why should i leave anything as precise as AAS body chemistry up to myself & my "educated guesses" on something that i have no basis to make an educated guess.

I would rather hear exactly what & what not to do, from someone who has made the trial & error themselves.


I am afraid of taking the classic anabolic componds--tst. deco--dbol etc....



anyway--

i am gonna scrap the IGF-1LR3 for right now & do a 40 cycle of Humatrope.

THe HGH way seems to be the way to go.
As long as i keep my dosages to around 1 to 1.4 i.u. a day, i shold experience any of the swollen hands, or other side effects that have been talked about.

The humatrope homepage has answered most of my questions about the product. It seems bulletproof--but way fucking expensive ($ 14.5 per i.u) with Elli Liiy----



If this seems unreasonable to you guys in the Know--
someone please tell me otherwise.


Thanx

oh yeah--


i am 24 years old.

OK....here goes nothing......

Do not be afraid of classic AAS. They are classic for a reason, they have been around since the 40's, and there are a whole lot more aspirin related deaths every year.......just treat them with respect

First.....
the only things you should be buying OTC are:MRP's, protein, vitamins and fatburners.....

Second....
Go to the search engine and read every post indicated after putting in: First cycle, post cycle therapy, ancillary drugs, diet/nutrition and injection proceedures....then read every drug profile

Third...
igf and hgh are generally considered advanced products, if only because of the cost. I personally like both products, but you are going to get WAY more bang for your buck by going the AAS route.

fourth....
get your diet,workouts and cardio in order........your BF needs to be lower to really start any of this.....

once you have done ALL these things come back and ask some informed questions...............you will be about 80% good to go

ok-

thanks for the feedback---


another question


how does the "classic-cycle" of test. & deca affect your sex-drive??

honestly now-

& how do you feel while taking the anti-estrogen after therapy??

what do you pro's think about taking otc--1AD test. wile doing my GH cycle?

Does that sound like a good idea?

I feel more comfortable using the GH because of its high standard of quality.

I dont want to make a mistake & get some bad AAS & f-myself up completely.

For me, i think that cycling GH will be a good beginners introduction to AAS. (I dont have to worry about any mistakes/side effects, as long as i keep my dosage correct.)

Another question respectively--

what is an adequate bfp % to have before starting an AAS cycle??


hey blackhand--

thanx for helping out a newbie!

NP Yamaha
I refuse to endorse ANY otc prohormone ect period

......the thing about the HGH is this.....your dosage really needs to be at least around 4iu/day...probably split into 2 doses....then you are going to have to wait maybe 6 months for any real progress....and as it has been said....at your age you have enough domestic production anyway.


I feel that you have been unjustly steered away from AAS by the media ect......read the board, there are alot of us here and no one has been "F'ed up for life"