To what extreme would you for liver healt?

Last year I was diagnosed with lymphoma (false alarm thankly)

During the intial phase I studied hard and long regarding Chinese herbal medicine. In addition to this I studied up on liver detoxification because I was gonna be on a lot of drugs to fight the cancer. In addition to the milk thistle and other stuff I found out something very interesting.

This is where you have to ask yourself how far you would go for liver health/safety. Remember you guys have been sticking yourselves and putting all kinds of sh*t into your body for the gains you want. The big discivery was ORGANIC COFFEE ENEMAS!

I know it sounds disgusting sticking something in your butt however, look at all of the other disgusting things we do!

Organic coffe enemas are by far the most immediate way to cleanse and detoxify your liver and gall bladder. It is important to use only organic coffee. I am seroius , it cleans you out good and it keeps the bloat down. I do one EOD now

You guys might want to read up in it on the web, this is definately #1 in liver cleansing health/safety. Cancer patients use them all the time to flush their systems because cancer drugs are very toxic to the liver.

How far would you go? If anyone wants more info let me know.

1victor

"Look at all the other disgusting things we do"

I dunno what u do in your free time(well I do now) but nothing i do compares to bending over and shoving coffee beans up my ass. no thank you.

Why the hell on earth would you possibly want to do that when we have bloodwork, and things you can swallow instead. Modern technology is better than what the chinese did thousands of years ago, and my liver values are easy to control.

Second, I want to see lab sheets for your bloodwork before and after this stuff, otherwise you cant possibly say it works just from some book or whatever. Theres ways to prove it, and I want to see it.

ignorance is bliss

Chill out man! Hold that hair trigger judgement and sarcasm.

I can tell you for a fact that it works because my liver enzymes were through the roof, they thought I had hepatitus because my enzymes were so high and my liver was enlarged to almost twice the normal size.

I had c t scans. ultra sounds all kinds of crap. It turned out to be something other than cancer (a rare condition) but as soon as I started doing this thing it reversed BAAAAAAAM!

As far as the chinese medicine being old and outdated, where do you think the idea of the herbal pills came from that you take. ie: milk thistle, Ma huang (ephedra).

Take a look at all of the supplements that they are trying to ban. They are all natural and they are banning them so the drug companies can then sell them by prescritpion only. Right now they can't make dick off of selling milk thistle etc.....

The drug companies are interested because the herbs are legit. Most of them are better acting for you than any script for any disease!

You need to educate yourself a little before you start spouting off at the mouth about things you don't understand.

BOOOOM......1 VICTOR is here !!!!
No ,Hi Hows it goin....Jes...Bend over and let me show ya how to shove Coffee up your ass...
If this thread keeps up ,I'm gonna repost the thread where the guy sticks 22g11/2 pins with gear in his star button ( ass hole )


Your killin me..
When you post extreme sometimes simple but unorthadox methods that help in some sort of way...especially when you first get here, you have to expect this kind of knee jerk reaction.
Plus your talking to ppl who have gone years w/o having to do that to keep their liver values in check.

I'll let you guys have fun with this one.
Later Bro
Brute

Man I didn't know that people were that critical here. I was only trying to share something that is of real value. It's not coffee beans it's a detoxification process.

It also helps to lower cholesterol, aids in digestion (Ulcers), promotes kidney health, empties the gall bladder, promotes healthy skin (no acne from roids) all kinds of stuff.

Everything we eat, drink, even breathe has toxins and they all tax the liver. It may sound kind of extreme and gross but it really has benefits.

This is holistic healing stuff that I guess most people think is nonsense. I did too until I thought I had stage III lymphoma cancer and was going to die. At that point I was ready to try anything.

EOD is a crazy. I'll admit i get a coffe enema 1 time a year and its when i get my colonic when alll the crap get s sucked out of my stomach and i have to do an epson salt flush with it to clean out the Gallbladder of gallstones by a LISCESED trained person Good thing she is a SHEor i would not go. 1 TIME a year though i dread that day but you feel great for like 3 months after.

EOD

I wasn't being critical.
It just sounds funnier when you say it like that.

And we all enjoy a good laugh at each others expence.
Ya got to admit "shoving coffee up your ass " sounds pretty funny.

However I do know that what your saying is serious . And your condition requires special measures of attention.

But ..Man ..EOD.?..Your star button must look like a pair of socks folded together...Thats gotta hurt.

calm down...first of all sarcasm is not an attack its humor. And if you couldnt predict people finding the humor in that then you should have kept it to yourself.

And as far as all this "ancient chinese medicine"...there is no ancient medicine, chinese, japanese, blackanese or any other as little as 150 years ago nobody knew what the hell a liver was other than "we pulled it outta that animal we killed"
It is modern science and technology my friend that discovered these things, and what they do, and how they do it.

"It also helps to lower cholesterol"-we have better things , "aids in digestion (Ulcers)"-so do meds, "promotes kidney health"-once again not at all specific, empties the gall bladder, "promotes healthy skin (no acne from roids)"-so do a 100 other things, promotes?too vague



"Take a look at all of the supplements that they are trying to ban. They are all natural and they are banning them so the drug companies can then sell them by prescritpion only. Right now they can't make dick off of selling milk thistle etc....."

what supps are you refering to. ephedra doesnt have jack shit to do with drug companies. they have "real" ephedrine and it is over the counter. and nobody is banning milk thistle.
the only thing uncle sam has banned lately and made script only is GHB and that aint no herb, and that was because of date rape losers who couldnt get any from conscious girls.

All I want to see is exactly what herbs are you referring to. Their method of action. Test Results. Etc. Just like we have for steroids. All I'm saying is that without these I dont believe it. Because there was NO medicine back in the day, so if people now are trying to say this herb does this and this and this, then they are the ones trying to rip people off not the drug companies. because unless they can prove it, it's just some good marketing.

To close, you say I need to educate myself about things I dont understand...All I want is for you to be prepared to do just that. Show me the education behind these things. If these things work as you say they do there should be ample data available from the scientific community for our enjoyment.

ok be nice fellas, but my wife is sittinghere wondering what the hell could be so damn funny that im laughing at, man AZ you got a way with words bro, im still laughing my ass of, and victor i dont think anyone took that as a personal attack on you bro, it was simple humor, i know its toughto determine sometimes through text but thats how i took, for what its worth az is cool a bit rough around the edges but thats what makes him who he is I suppose, u'l get use to everyone bro, not one person on this site will flame another for n reason at all bro,

coffee beans---------->:moon:

I believe ya Bro
As I said ... You have a special condition.. If you know it works for you and there is yet another post of someone who has done something similar then you don't have to prove sh-t to me.

What I would like to know is...Does Pressors cartoon accuratly depict the Coffee bean process...LOL...Jes kiddin Bro.

Looks like AZ1 is disecting your paragraphs and giving his opinion on each part of them.
I think He's asking for logical, documented, scientific proof of your claims from MY preception.

That sounds like alot of work, study , referances and test results.

I would only go through an argouis task like that if AZ1 makes a commitment to shove coffee beans up HIS Ass when and if you prove your Right.

Thats just my opinion tho.

is that regular or dark roast? ill stick with the thistle!

Try www.honso.com/Kamposystem/sho-saiko-toh92.html

or the main site www.honsousa.com



Give me your opinion on that.

Okay as we are a learning site and as people pass on experiences we need to remain objective.

On coffee enemas, it is a prepared solution of coffee which is used in the enema. It was used to clean out a persons colon. I remember along way back when the actor Michael Landon (little house on the praire) used a coffee enema in his battle against his colon cancer.

1Victor does have his points and should be allowed the right to give us his experiences. Such as the guy that really did do a butt shot.

Brutus oh did you stir up some old memories...LOL

Be objective and avoid the flames.

no flame here
I would have to agree w/ presser that things get taken wrong when typed...you cant hear the tone in someones voice, or know their frame of mind when writing, you just have to make the best of it and laugh. Anyone who's been on the boards for a while has seen a million times where it looks like people are getting into it only for it to have a happy ending. If I had a prob w/ u I would not have helped you out with your bloodwork question.

Bottom line for me is that I can certainly empathize with being faced with the end of your life and being willing to try anything. However most, if not all people on here are not in that situation(if u are u shouldnt be juicing). So even if coffee enemas are a way to cleanse the liver, it's extreme nature puts it out of the realm of consideration for most if not all people here.

I did, however, look at the links you suggested, the first one doesnt work. And the second, I looked at their "research" link and read a few "studies". I guess the problem I have with these, is that they are all shorter than my post. Not one explains by what action or mechanism any of these things works. They end with things like "From these results, it was supposed that Keishi-bukuryo-gan exerted a protective effect on the endothelium."

That's it, "supposed"? I could not find one that explained anything. Just observations.

What I want is an in depth explanation of the action, like we could certainly dig up to show the effect HCG has on the testes to simulate LH.

And for a parting shot Michael Landon is dead.

peace out bro's

As I rearched this on Coppernic, the more popular I find this process.

and M. Landon didn't die from using coffee enemas. It could have helped him in his struggle. We don't know and I doubt that anyone here could come up with the kind of proof and documentation that shows w/o a shadow of a doubt that it didn't help , Jusy like you cant show that level of proof that what Victor is saying is false.

There are alot of ppl on here who know their stuff and can show indepth results on various issues, However most of the time We are sharing our experiences with using this roid or drug at this dose or that dose to help someone else find what they are looking for w/o demanding , proof detailed essays that support our advise to them.
I'm not sure why we have such a passion to make Victors experience any different. He's just sharing what he knows for a fact by personal experience to be true.
It's true we don't all have Life threatening situations on this board. And as He said , He found out he didn't either.

All my joking aside ( and I hope I didn't offend anyone)The doses I see ppl using on this board could constitute this level of Detoxifying of the liver.
This could be good info for someone who feels they are in need to detoxify in this manner for their own personal reasons.

--THICK1-- Every time I think of that old thread I laugh my ass off no matter where I'm at..I'll never forget that one

Hey Brutus,

Do you have a copy of that post or thread, damn I wish I had copied and pasted into a save file. That was the best crap I ever heard of. And like you I still laugh my ass off.