kynoselen

Anyone have experience with this? If so what where your doses, cycled lenght and results? I think I'm gonna give it a try inbetween cycles.

bump, I wanna know also. My eating has really been lacking lately. I need to get hold of this stuff to help. Sorry to ask's this question in your thread brew, but what exactly is kynosleen? Is it a controlled substance, prescription or OTC? I know nothing about it.

weird thing is this stuff came out a long time ago and now for some reason it is resurfacing. In 2001 I saw it and it was supposed to be the next big thing. Then it fell off the map and everyone was saying how bad it sucks.
Anyways, my boy at the gym is telling me he read something about it in MD...and it was given high marks.
I'm confused and I have the MD....but I couldn't find the article.

Kynoselen

Kynoselen was originally used by vets to inhibit protein breakdown (catabolism) in animals, this peculiar drug soon found its way into bodies of AIDS patients who desperately needed something to prevent their bodies from breaking down protein.

Kynoselen is different than steroids and induces many very important physiological processes all bodybuilders love. Increased anabolism/anti-catabolism, increased ATP production and reduced body fat levels. Kynoselen is a very popular contest prep drug in France.

Kynoselen is a vitamin/mineral supplement, not a testosterone related anabolic steroid like you might expect. Kynoselen is a new drug; and nobody has been able to precisely explain how it works. However, it's the belief by some in the scientific community that one of Kynoselen's key ingredients, adenosine monophosphate (AMP) is the main reason for its popularity with bodybuilders.

They believe that AMP acts as a signaling compound that instructs the muscle cell to initiate protein synthesis. This makes a lot of sense because increased AMP levels have been shown to dramatically increase a master enzyme that controls virtually all cellular activity.

Some bodybuilders are using Kynoselen for site injections, similar to synthol site injections. But generally most do subcutaneus injection (under the skin, like an insulin injection).

The general "gym doseage" is about 1 ml per day for a 200 lb. bodybuilder.

Here is a pic and some more info. Hope this helps.

Kynoselen



The Muscular Stimulant, Tonic

And Restorative

Provides... cellular, muscular and metabolic stimulation.

Provides... cellular energy and helps with energy conversion.

Helps... regulate and protect cardio-vascular function.

Helps... treat and prevent myopathic diseases.

THE PRODUCT

Each 100ml contains:

AMP (ADENOSINE MONOPHOSPHATE)

200mg - this `active' form of phosphorous stimulates energy transformation, provides an immediate source of cellular energy, and helps cardio-vascular regulation.

HEPTAMINOL 500mg - a psychostimulant and cardio-respiratory stimulant. Helps dilates coronary blood vessels.

VITAMIN B12 25mg - stimulates general metabolism and supplements when Vitamin B12 levels may be low.

SODIUM SELENITE 50mg (23mg elemental selenium) - selenium is a catalyst for energy and fat metabolism, an anti-oxidant and regulator of metabolic oxidative processes, and an essential trace element.

MAGNESIUM ASPARTATE (1500mg)

POTASSIUM ASPARTATE (1000mg) - the aspartate salts stimulate the Krebs and urea cycles, assist glucose/glycogen metabolism, help protect the heart when oxygen deficiency occurs during strenuous exercise, and help increase the amplitude of its contractions.

INDICATIONS

KYNOSELEN is valuable whenever cardiac or skeletal muscles are compromised or damaged through disease, deficiencies, or over-exertion, and when a general restorative, stimulatory or `tonic' effect is desired. Helpful where there is debility and loss of strength.

Ive been doing 3ml per day and I have just started some aqua-clen ontop of this.

i am interested in this stuff also..i have heard mixed reviews..some say its shit some say its golden

hey C, what's your stats? I'm trying to judge what I'm gonna run it at, I was told 2-3 ml but everything i read says 1-2. I'm 190.

I'm 225, from what others have said is that you need to be using higher dosages to notice anything, 3-5ml a day. If I remember 1ml per 50lbs is the reccomendation. I can tell you that my body temp is up, I feel warmer during the day and I measure about a degree high on the thermometer. I have also had a hard time sleeping, I can get a few decent hours of sleep and then im up the rest of the night, on the plus side energy seems to be good during the day, I feel great in the gym, lifts are even up slightly. Keep in mind that I am also taking aqua-clen, my last dosage was 30mcg and I will bump that to 40mcg tomorrow. I plan on working my way up to 80-100mcg of the aqua clen.

Your going sub q right? You split that 3 ml up troughout the day, or all at once.

IM, I have done it all at once and I have also done it 6am and 4pm, I dont notice a difference between spliting it up.

Lord Odin, thanks for the info mate. As it contains a stimulant I suppose it's black market like everything else.

Haven't had any experience with it but have seen it available without a script domestically on various web sites so must not be black market - at least not yet.

I have been taking the kyno now for about 2weeks and have noticed some pretty good results so far.. the biggest thing I noticed was my stamina went way up.. jacked the article is on page 288 bro...

I have done a few cycles of kynoselen. Most were 10cc ED for 8 weeks and no that isn't a typo. If you want specifics search for my old posts with kynoselen in them. I think it is good stuff, but don't expect steroidal gains. It is a great OTC supplement to take during off periods while your hpta is recoverring, but I think the effects are small and not seen in the average users doseages. It is only worth it IMO unless you are taking a high doseage and are using it to give u that extra tiny edge when you are doing everything else to help yourself also. I get it for 16.00/bottle, so a bottle every ten days is easily affordable.,,,bigjosh

damn that is a kickass price. you'd have to get it at a rock bottom price to run it at that high a dose. how much did your temp rise when you ran it that high?

None that I noticed. I sweat like a pig naturally so can't tell you based on sweat, but did not feel hotter than normal.

I've never heard anything about thermogenic properties in kyno...

I've used Kynoselen a couple of times at the end of a cycle. But at the same time I was also going through hcg then clomiphene citrate. I used about 2ml ED for 3 weeks along with 1ml of B12. I did notice results beyond what I would get with only hcg and clomid. I felt leaner and stronger and had no negative side effects. I've also noticed that the most active ingredient,disodic adenosine monophosphate, is currently being sold by several companies as a stand-alone product. As long as the price remains stable and reasonable, I'd use Kynoselen again.