prop + enanthate

jth250 · Oct 9, 2005

im in the midst of plannin out my next cycle. ive been using sest for the past few runs but from all the great info here i feel ill get better gains from just 1 compound rather than 4. i have never run prop before and thinkin about runnin it for my next run. so lets say i run enanthate for my main compound and use prop to get me started. how would i go about making this work out the best?? should i run the prop at like 150mg eod and the enantat at 500-750/week. how long should i run the prop for??.. or do you guys like to run the prop for the duration. im just not sure if i could handle stickin myself with a harpoon 4x/week. i would also prolly run eq as well. let me know what you guys think about this or if you have any better sugestions. i know that with prop its alot easier to keep your pct under controll

dreww · Oct 9, 2005

Run the enan or cyp weeks 1-10 or 12 or whatever. Don't taper or front load.

Then run the prop weeks 1-3 or 4. EOD is fine and 150mg each time is fine.

mass-master · Oct 9, 2005

I have run Prop in the front and the back of my cycles and have gotten great results. 3-4weeks up front and then 2-3 weeks at the end. I know guys who have gone as high as 900mg's a week.
he site injected in his traps and thos F*cker lookes like the wings on plane. Thick too. MM

TomSizeMore · Oct 9, 2005

I'm running prop/tren and it is the hardest injection that I've ever had to take. I was planning on running it EOD at 100mg each. Also running 1gm/wk EQ. should I be site injecting this too?

Sorry to hijack yur thread Jth

mass-master · Oct 9, 2005

No Fricken dought it hurts like a MOTHER if you are site injecting or in the old butt. I try to put alittle EQ or more oil in it to thin it out. EQ tends to take the pain away. Also heat that shit up under running hot water while in the dart. Goes in alot smoother.
Shout out tom my boy BIG T things are going to be alright. See it and you will achieve it. MM

jth250 · Oct 9, 2005

its all good tommyS. what is the significance of runnin the prop at the end. ill prolly run the test e. thers not to much of a diference between e and cyp is there??

dreww · Oct 9, 2005

Cyp or enan......doesn't matter. You wouldn't notice a difference either way. Technically, cyp has a slightly shorter ester, so you get a higher % of test.

Site injects don't provide localised growth so aren't necessary. I did them, but my prop was painless and I prop all the way through so I did run out of sites.

Wouldn't I put "regular" prop in my bis or tris? Hellz no!

saudades · Oct 10, 2005

dreww said:
Cyp or enan......doesn't matter. You wouldn't notice a difference either way. Technically, cyp has a slightly shorter ester, so you get a higher % of test.

Site injects don't provide localised growth so aren't necessary.

This is true. I've been on cyp for over six years, and I can definitely say you don't get localized growth by site injecting it.

Site injecting prop couldn't be any worse than injecting syntherol. That stuff really hurt for the first while, but I got used to it. I'm sure I could do the same with prop.

BiggerStronger · Oct 10, 2005

dreww said:
Cyp or enan......doesn't matter. You wouldn't notice a difference either way. Technically, cyp has a slightly shorter ester, so you get a higher % of test.

Site injects don't provide localised growth so aren't necessary. I did them, but my prop was painless and I prop all the way through so I did run out of sites.

Wouldn't I put "regular" prop in my bis or tris? Hellz no!

Enanthate is slightly shorter ester. cyp is a little longer. Either way it's probably not noticeable.

jth250 · Oct 10, 2005

do you get the same type gains from cyp or enan that you get from prop. if i were to run prop all the way through i would be able to controll pct alot better. right?? i have always done eather sest or enan. all the knowledge i got here makes me not want to run sest ever agian. does prop give you all the bloat that enan does??

dreww · Oct 10, 2005

jth250 said:
do you get the same type gains from cyp or enan that you get from prop. if i were to run prop all the way through i would be able to controll pct alot better. right?? i have always done eather sest or enan. all the knowledge i got here makes me not want to run sest ever agian. does prop give you all the bloat that enan does??

ive noticed, that no matter what the ester, the sides from test dont change. I hold water like a camel on cyp, and just as bad on prop.

only difference is more shots with prop and i feel it quicker.

and BiggerStronger.....is enan ester really shorter? I could have sworn it was the cyp ester. Either way, ya wont notice a difference.....i think that can be agreed on.

jaywooly · Oct 11, 2005

Enanthate's halflife is about 10.5 and cyp is about 12. Either way, prolly not going to notice a difference like you all agreed.

jth250 · Oct 11, 2005

so lets say im going to start with prop. how many weeks will it be before i start to notice?? i know with like sest or enan it wouldnt be untill like the 5th week that you actually noticed and your cycles all most half over. im sure if i new then what i know now about sest i could have made better progress. when your first getting in to it its all here-say. nobody really know how to use it. i was told to take 1 amp/week for 10 weeks. well it worked like a charm back then. i never new there were places like this with all the info in the world about everythin

BiggerStronger · Oct 11, 2005

about 2 weeks for prop.

saudades · Oct 12, 2005

jaywooly said:
Enanthate's halflife is about 10.5 and cyp is about 12. Either way, prolly not going to notice a difference like you all agreed.

Not to split hairs or anything, just that my doc has always told me that cyp's halflife is 10 days....do you know for sure which it is?

brew · Oct 12, 2005

bro, you'll notice stamina increase in about 5-6 days, or at least I do but you won't really 'see' the prop until the end of teh second wk. for front loading only I would run it 4 wks.

dreww · Oct 13, 2005

usually takes 2 weeks for me to feel prop (libido wise) and about 4-5 weeks for longer esters.

last cycle, I frontloaded like 1.5gms prop and felt kick in 1 week to the day.
not that I recommend front loading 1.5gms of prop though

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