Does what gear you use for your prep really matter ?

Chris250

Chris250

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Here is a good question for everyone to debate on...Does using, precontest gear (winny V, primo, masteron, ect, ect) Really matter the final 6 weeks during precontest prep...What I mean, does these drugs actully help you lean out out, or give you a harder look ? What is everyone thoughts on this ?

My opinion is they dont really help you lean out..But they dont convert into estrogen as much as normal gear (test E or C, Deca, EQ, d-bol) So with less estrogen you have in your body, it is easier to lean down some...Also with the hardness factor these drugs dont make you hold as much water..So that gives you a leaner look to...

On the flip side though..I know of a few guys that just use test, and deca or eq the final weeks..and they come in looking crazy ass hard to...They just use a Anti- E to combact the estrogen side effects...So does it really matter ?

Give me your thoughts

chris
 
you can diet down on anything with the right anti-E. I was using AD-50 the last weeks of my diet.
 
yous are both crazy if you dont think it matters....even more important than that is as much HG as possible. ESPECIALLY anti-e's....
 
DB006 said:
yous are both crazy if you dont think it matters....even more important than that is as much HG as possible. ESPECIALLY anti-e's....
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disagree... if your not lean enough, then thats your falt, not the drugs.

Know a guy that just did a show and his conditoning was out of this world!! Im talking crazy and all he did was test, d-bol, and arimedix, for his diet.
 
nuknuk said:
disagree... if your not lean enough, then thats your falt, not the drugs.

Know a guy that just did a show and his conditoning was out of this world!! Im talking crazy and all he did was test, d-bol, and arimedix, for his diet.
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the meds dont help in this process?? dont get me get me wrong, surely the diet and training are your responsibility, but the extra hardness you get from the right combo of quality meds is undeniable. the judge at the nationals last year told me i didnt have that "anabolic look". i did everything i could except for using quality gear.

lets see this guy your talking about. cause without a pic its worthless.
 
There are alot of competitors that simply pull the compounds that would make them hold water as close as 2-3weeks out & stay an anti-e/hardening cycle for the last days
 
DB006 said:
the meds dont help in this process?? dont get me get me wrong, surely the diet and training are your responsibility, but the extra hardness you get from the right combo of quality meds is undeniable. the judge at the nationals last year told me i didnt have that "anabolic look". i did everything i could except for using quality gear.

lets see this guy your talking about. cause without a pic its worthless.
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I agree that certain compounds give you that hard anabolic look....Masteron, maybe winny, tren/para, Halo ?
 
Yes, it does make a difference. Now it's possible to get a similar look if you get your timing right, dropping certain compounds, water under control, and filling out perfectly. The real question should be: Is it easier to do using a bunch of different androgenic drugs? OF COURSE...and if I was competing I would use every one to my advantage within reason. It takes a lot of trial & error to find out the ones to which you respond best. Comp Prep work is an art form.
 
BiggerStronger said:
Yes, it does make a difference. Now it's possible to get a similar look if you get your timing right, dropping certain compounds, water under control, and filling out perfectly. The real question should be: Is it easier to do using a bunch of different androgenic drugs? OF COURSE...and if I was competing I would use every one to my advantage within reason. It takes a lot of trial & error to find out the ones to which you respond best. Comp Prep work is an art form.
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well said i agree 100%
 
what do you guys think about using Parabolan during the last month pre show ?

or is tren A a better choice...I know there simular, but curious is anyone has experiance with Para the final months
 
Chris250 said:
I agree that certain compounds give you that hard anabolic look....Masteron, maybe winny, tren/para, Halo ?
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of course bro. and im talking about astra zenica arimidex, stenox halo's, desma winny amps, schering proviron, HG test amps. and obviously the best tren and mast you can get. trust me. that makes a HUGE difference.
 
this is an interesting thread to me because i've never used aas for a contest...i was natural when i competed as a bantamweight....only bulking......next years npc wisconsin will be the first time i'm using in my precontest prep so i'm really interested and have little knowledge of what/how to make my cycle for my show.....
 
DB006 said:
of course bro. and im talking about astra zenica arimidex, stenox halo's, desma winny amps, schering proviron, HG test amps. and obviously the best tren and mast you can get. trust me. that makes a HUGE difference.
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So DB your also saying that certain companys are better than some UG companys (What if the UG makes good/great products) vs. Human grade gear ? Im curious on your thoughts on this ?
 
Chris250 said:
So DB your also saying that certain companys are better than some UG companys (What if the UG makes good/great products) vs. Human grade gear ? Im curious on your thoughts on this ?
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bro your getting ready for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. what would you rather rely on? something from the pharmacy? or something made in someones basement?
 
DB006 said:
bro your getting ready for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. what would you rather rely on? something from the pharmacy? or something made in someones basement?
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I agree with this...and as far as Arimidex goes you better get your hands on some AstraZeneca. The liquid and UG tabs arent worth a shit compared to this.
 
Good points guys...I agree human grade is great stuff, when you can get your hands or funds on it...
 
body2see said:
Every human grade that I have run has been phenomenal, and on the other hand NOT every UG brand has been top notch. At the same time I have had UG stuff that is just as effective as organon, schering, etc, etc...

As for cutting with Parabolan, if i was still a bodybuilder, I can't imagine how it wouldn't be effective, however I cant honestly say I ran this precontest. I found that coming off test, I lost the remaining water and was far more vascular then if I tapered down or even ran something quick like prop.

I'd love to see something like parabolan and igf run precontest and see what happens.

As for anadrol, thats pretty amazing that people can cut with it. Ive even heard of people running dbol and winny prior to show. Genetics???
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yeah, some people can run certain compounds that some of us cant...I dont know how a person could run D-bol, the final month before a show... but some people do and look great...So it could be genetics, or hormone profile...
 
IF i had the money i would go only HG i think it makes a huge differance it could be the correct dosage or just much higer quality raw material.
 
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