2nd WINTER PH cycle for LEAN GAINS.

joe_1165 said:

if i were you , i would just go for Hdrol or EPI with MC IGF for a 2nd cycle, you won't regret it. i tried EPI with MC IGF a while ago and i was really impressed with the results.

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gvnch said:

Hello, I'm 23 years old, I train about 4,5 years.


Did a first stack ever times ago with pretty solid gains and results (RPN Havoc + Tamoxifen@PCT + stuff like milk thistle, str.berries, a lot of cycle support and vitamins/minerals and other supps), wanted to start another (on this winter) but would appreciate some educated second opinions. My goal is build some lean mass. (I am just not a fan of wet gains, like after methan or so...).


I'm kinda gymfreak. I know a lot about food/training/supplements, I also write for some bodybuilding websites in my country and so on. What I am trying to say is that I'm not a newbie in "bodybuilding world".




Ok so, I can not decide what to try for my next cycle. I was thinking about P-mag, H-Drol, Mdien, Triumphalis or Mechabol. I think those are really great products for 2nd cycle. But maybe there are another great "alternatives". So I need to help.




What do You guys recommend me for my 2nd cycle? Thanks!

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fstr03svtcobra said:

Lean: option 1: havoc @ 60-70mg for 6-8 weeks
option 2: havoc @ 40mg + hdrol @ 75mg for 6-8 weeks

For lean do calories at maintenance - 500 below maintenance. For bulk do calories at maintenance - 500 above. Don't go crazy on eating too much. For the second cycle, let the gear do the work.

All of these are legal and will dramatically change your body if you eat enough protein, fats, and carbs when appropriate and train very hard and heavy. PCT is definitely needed. Good luck dude.

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fstr03svtcobra said:

Lean: option 1: havoc @ 60-70mg for 6-8 weeks
option 2: havoc @ 40mg + hdrol @ 75mg for 6-8 weeks
option 3: havoc @ 50mg + hdrol @ 50mg + stanodrol @ 800mg for 6-8 weeks

Bulk: option 1: super dmz 2 @ 2-3 caps ed for 4 weeks + max lmg @150mg ed for 8 weeks
option 2: m1t (alpha 1) @ 40mg ed for 4 weeks + max lmg @ 150mg ed for 8 weeks

For lean do calories at maintenance - 500 below maintenance. For bulk do calories at maintenance - 500 above. Don't go crazy on eating too much. For the second cycle, let the gear do the work.

All of these are legal and will dramatically change your body if you eat enough protein, fats, and carbs when appropriate and train very hard and heavy. PCT is definitely needed. Good luck dude.

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