Recreational Powerlifters/oly lifters rant

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So there are a bunch of these high heel oly lifting shoe wearing fa-haaagg-ottts (suck it - I beat the auto editing) at my gyms that do nothing but olympic and powerlifting lifts because to them everything else isn't lifting or whatever. Not trying to be a dick but none of these guys have a physique that you would even look at them and think they lift if you didn't see the $200 high heels they are wearing. And the other problem is that they aren't even strong. I'm sorry but you shouldn't consider yourself anything more than a worthless tub of shit if you weigh 210 and squat low 400's, pull low-mid 500's and barely bench 300 AND are strength training 5 days a week. I'm not saying that those numbers are bad for the average guy - not at all! But if strength training is a major part of your life and something you devote tons of time and money to, then those numbers suck. To make matters worse these people are incredibly arrogant.

So because I don't give unsolicited advise I don't say anything, but it's so painfully obvious what the problem is. You simply cannot separate getting stronger with bodybuilding style routines. Both rep ranges have their advantages, but you can only be so strong with a certain amount of mass. I think I was able to increase my strength very quickly on no prohormones (haha "prohormones") or any gear simply because I had the muscle mass to accommodate the strength. Essentially I had a base for strength and all I did was learn the movements, train some under developed parts, and peak my strength which is in the nervous system not the muscles. Now I'm thinking it's time to get more mass so that I can have a better base to peak with.

But back to the main point... every strong person that isn't fat does bbing style routines in terms of rep ranges and direct muscle training (ie high bar close stance squats for off season quad development). You cannot get away from accessory work and high reps no matter who you are. And powerlifting is not an excuse to look like a skinny-fat bitch.

To further make my point... lots (not all, but lots) of the top squatters train with really light squats and low rest time or don't even free squat much at all in the offseason. You can get incredibly strong in the squat and save your knees by doing partials, high / low box squats, front squats, pin squats ect. But oh no not these mother fuckers at my gym. Here they are doing year round 5x5 and making no progress because anything else isn't a squat. My high box squats aren't real squats. Doing rear delt or bicep work isn't a real lift even through it will make your bench go crazy and make you look good in the process. Oh and my favorite: rows and shrugs must be performed with perfect form. Mother fucker everyone who has shit form on those movements gets stronger. It's a fact.

I live off accessory work. There's no way that you can squat super heavy year round or deadlift heavy week in and week out and make progress. And you have to have mass (aka a base) to get stronger. Plus why would you want to be strong and look terrible. There's a reason physiologically that our minds see a jacked person and assume they are strong. It's because most likely they are. I think this breed of chubby no muscle powerlifters and oly lifter disciples has to be liquidated.
 
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So there are a bunch of these high heel oly lifting shoe wearing fa-haaagg-ottts (suck it - I beat the auto editing) at my gyms that do nothing but olympic and powerlifting lifts because to them everything else isn't lifting or whatever. Not trying to be a dick but none of these guys have a physique that you would even look at them and think they lift if you didn't see the $200 high heels they are wearing. And the other problem is that they aren't even strong. I'm sorry but you shouldn't consider yourself anything more than a worthless tub of shit if you weigh 210 and squat low 400's, pull low-mid 500's and barely bench 300 AND are strength training 5 days a week. I'm not saying that those numbers are bad for the average guy - not at all! But if strength training is a major part of your life and something you devote tons of time and money to, then those numbers suck. To make matters worse these people are incredibly arrogant.

So because I don't give unsolicited advise I don't say anything, but it's so painfully obvious what the problem is. You simply cannot separate getting stronger with bodybuilding style routines. Both rep ranges have their advantages, but you can only be so strong with a certain amount of mass. I think I was able to increase my strength very quickly on no prohormones (haha "prohormones") or any gear simply because I had the muscle mass to accommodate the strength. Essentially I had a base for strength and all I did was learn the movements, train some under developed parts, and peak my strength which is in the nervous system not the muscles. Now I'm thinking it's time to get more mass so that I can have a better base to peak with.

But back to the main point... every strong person that isn't fat does bbing style routines in terms of rep ranges and direct muscle training (ie high bar close stance squats for off season quad development). You cannot get away from accessory work and high reps no matter who you are. And powerlifting is not an excuse to look like a skinny-fat bitch.

To further make my point... lots (not all, but lots) of the top squatters train with really light squats and low rest time or don't even free squat much at all in the offseason. You can get incredibly strong in the squat and save your knees by doing partials, high / low box squats, front squats, pin squats ect. But oh no not these mother fuckers at my gym. Here they are doing year round 5x5 and making no progress because anything else isn't a squat. My high box squats aren't real squats. Doing rear delt or bicep work isn't a real lift even through it will make your bench go crazy and make you look good in the process. Oh and my favorite: rows and shrugs must be performed with perfect form. Mother fucker everyone who has shit form on those movements gets stronger. It's a fact.

I live off accessory work. There's no way that you can squat super heavy year round or deadlift heavy week in and week out and make progress. And you have to have mass (aka a base) to get stronger. Plus why would you want to be strong and look terrible. There's a reason physiologically that our minds see a jacked person and assume they are strong. It's because most likely they are. I think this breed of chubby no muscle powerlifters and oly lifter disciples has to be liquidated.

lmao, thats some funny shit brutha, however I'm not familiar with these high heel shoes your speaking of. $50 bucks says the guys your talking about walk around with AIR LATS lol, i hate that type of person! lol
 
lmao, thats some funny shit brutha, however I'm not familiar with these high heel shoes your speaking of. $50 bucks says the guys your talking about walk around with AIR LATS lol, i hate that type of person! lol
Oh yes they do.

And just google "adidas adipower" or "olympic lifting shoes" and you will see. They are great for getting more depth in the squat. I have no problems with elite lifters using them. I personally think they look gay, but I know that they serve a purpose.

And yes these guys are injecting seo's into their air lats to make them even bigger.
 
Oh yes they do.

And just google "adidas adipower" or "olympic lifting shoes" and you will see. They are great for getting more depth in the squat. I have no problems with elite lifters using them. I personally think they look gay, but I know that they serve a purpose.

And yes these guys are injecting seo's into their air lats to make them even bigger.

those shoes aren't so bad, i hate the bodybuilding otomix high top bodybuilding shoes guys wear to the gym, now those fuckers are fugly! Way uglier then those shoes u showed me, but i didn't see too much of a heel on the ones i googled so many i looked at the wrong ones!

And thats too fucking funny, Air lats are the funniest thing in the world, when my wife and i go food shopping, we can pick the guy out in advance that we think is going to flare out his air lats as soon as he sees me or walks by me, lol, people are sad sometimes lol
 
those shoes aren't so bad, i hate the bodybuilding otomix high top bodybuilding shoes guys wear to the gym, now those fuckers are fugly! Way uglier then those shoes u showed me, but i didn't see too much of a heel on the ones i googled so many i looked at the wrong ones!

And thats too fucking funny, Air lats are the funniest thing in the world, when my wife and i go food shopping, we can pick the guy out in advance that we think is going to flare out his air lats as soon as he sees me or walks by me, lol, people are sad sometimes lol
Idk man maybe it's just these douches that are pissing me off LOL. But yeah it's like a defense mechanism for the weaker. Kinda like a puffer fish.
 
Idk man maybe it's just these douches that are pissing me off LOL. But yeah it's like a defense mechanism for the weaker. Kinda like a puffer fish.

Thats the funniest shit I've read all day lol, I'm literally laughing out loud, cause your probably dead right! lol a fucking puffer fish! I can't wait to call one of these guys a puffer fish to my wife next time we see an asshole who we know is going to puff up lol
 
Thats the funniest shit I've read all day lol, I'm literally laughing out loud, cause your probably dead right! lol a fucking puffer fish! I can't wait to call one of these guys a puffer fish to my wife next time we see an asshole who we know is going to puff up lol
haha thanks! It just popped into my head and I thought hmm that's a pretty good analogy LOL.
 
So because I don't give unsolicited advise I don't say anything, but it's so painfully obvious what the problem is. You simply cannot separate getting stronger with bodybuilding style routines. Both rep ranges have their advantages, but you can only be so strong with a certain amount of mass. I think I was able to increase my strength very quickly on no prohormones (haha "prohormones") or any gear simply because I had the muscle mass to accommodate the strength. Essentially I had a base for strength and all I did was learn the movements, train some under developed parts, and peak my strength which is in the nervous system not the muscles. Now I'm thinking it's time to get more mass so that I can have a better base to peak with.

This is a point I wish I had learned much, much earlier when I was training. I was always thinking strength = bigger and doing high weight, low reps. I could never figure out why I never gained much size though I was strong. (I never trained 5 days a week though.) Only in the last 3 or so years did I learn how to properly do volume and periodization correctly in conjunction with the strength. The difference is unbelievable.
 
This is a point I wish I had learned much, much earlier when I was training. I was always thinking strength = bigger and doing high weight, low reps. I could never figure out why I never gained much size though I was strong. (I never trained 5 days a week though.) Only in the last 3 or so years did I learn how to properly do volume and periodization correctly in conjunction with the strength. The difference is unbelievable.
Exactly... build mass and save joints then peak your lifts then repeat.

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Presser lmao hahahahahahaha!!!!
 
I train and compete in powerlifting. but I do my accessory work and fair share of high rep stuff. in fact I much prefer the body building style of training. I'm thinking after my next meet(when ever that is) I'm going straight body building and see what I can do.

I really liked this rant b/c those "slobs" he's talking about are everywhere. in fact at my last meet I had several people ask me if I was a body builder that decided to crash a the meet and kick everyone's ass(because I did). I've always said I want to be like Deion Sanders and Bo Jackson. be a top level 2 sport athlete. maybe one day. :)
 
I train and compete in powerlifting. but I do my accessory work and fair share of high rep stuff. in fact I much prefer the body building style of training. I'm thinking after my next meet(when ever that is) I'm going straight body building and see what I can do.

I really liked this rant b/c those "slobs" he's talking about are everywhere. in fact at my last meet I had several people ask me if I was a body builder that decided to crash a the meet and kick everyone's ass(because I did). I've always said I want to be like Deion Sanders and Bo Jackson. be a top level 2 sport athlete. maybe one day. :)

It makes me feel better that they aren't all just congregated at my gym.

What weight class do you compete in and what are your lifts (gym lifts count in my book LOL)?
 
This is some funny shit!!! I see those "Puffer Fish" at my gym too! Little fuckers, all puffed up, with shiny Oly shoes! The other day one hit a 315 squat and thought he was the man! I'm over 50 and can still crush these guys. All I could do to keep from banging out some reps with his max!! Too funny. They need a training session with CT Fletcher! This thread made my day!!
 
It makes me feel better that they aren't all just congregated at my gym.

What weight class do you compete in and what are your lifts (gym lifts count in my book LOL)?
My last meet went 618, 385, 606. I would have hit my 3rd squat at 650 but the damned platform was uneven as hell and I fell back and to the side at the top. Sorta ruined the whole meet for me and I half assed the rest of the day. Didn't help that I felt like shit from not eating much the day before or that am.
Tore my pec in may last year and I'm still on the comeback. I used to bench 405 almost weekly but since my accident the most I've done is 385.
I hit a 633.5(kilo plates) a couple of weeks ago and 785 with big reverse bands the week after. Although I cut it a bit high. I'll have that video as soon as my friend uploads it. I'll post it then.
As far as deadlift goes the most I've puked in the gym is 645.

I compete at 220 and usually weigh about 215.
 
My last meet went 618, 385, 606. I would have hit my 3rd squat at 650 but the damned platform was uneven as hell and I fell back and to the side at the top. Sorta ruined the whole meet for me and I half assed the rest of the day. Didn't help that I felt like shit from not eating much the day before or that am.
Tore my pec in may last year and I'm still on the comeback. I used to bench 405 almost weekly but since my accident the most I've done is 385.
I hit a 633.5(kilo plates) a couple of weeks ago and 785 with big reverse bands the week after. Although I cut it a bit high. I'll have that video as soon as my friend uploads it. I'll post it then.
As far as deadlift goes the most I've puked in the gym is 645.

I compete at 220 and usually weigh about 215.

Fucking right dude! Those are good numbers. You ought to get that bench back up to 400's and cut weight to get to 198. I've benched 405 a couple of times and 365 countless times all with pauses. I deadlifted 605 for a double and had more in me. I'm peaking it right now and hope to pull mid 600's soon. I pulled an effortless 545 off a 3 inch deficit on a gym bar with no carbs in my system so thus far in this peaking cycle it's going good. My squat sucks ass and I may pm you for some advise. Highest I've ever gone is 545, but that was a great day and I'm very unreliable usually. BTW all these lifts are with no AAS/prohormones. I hope to get my squat more consistent and then blast some prohormones and do a meet and hopefully pull 675, bench 405+, and squat 600 (that's kind of a stretch right now). If I could get to 181 that would be very, very solid (26lbs off breaking a raw without wraps world record actually). I sit at right around 200-205 depending on if I'm taking eca and how many times I go out to eat per week.
 
My last meet went 618, 385, 606. I would have hit my 3rd squat at 650 but the damned platform was uneven as hell and I fell back and to the side at the top. Sorta ruined the whole meet for me and I half assed the rest of the day. Didn't help that I felt like shit from not eating much the day before or that am.
Tore my pec in may last year and I'm still on the comeback. I used to bench 405 almost weekly but since my accident the most I've done is 385.
I hit a 633.5(kilo plates) a couple of weeks ago and 785 with big reverse bands the week after. Although I cut it a bit high. I'll have that video as soon as my friend uploads it. I'll post it then.
As far as deadlift goes the most I've puked in the gym is 645.

I compete at 220 and usually weigh about 215.

why didn't you eat????
 
why didn't you eat????

the day before I was afraid of making weight. turns out I came in at 214. I normally have trouble eating very early in the am. plus I was stressed out so there was that. I wanted to eat. I just couldn't get it down.
 
the day before I was afraid of making weight. turns out I came in at 214. I normally have trouble eating very early in the am. plus I was stressed out so there was that. I wanted to eat. I just couldn't get it down.
Bro gotta do those 24hr weigh in meets LOL.
 
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