Opinions on running this cycle

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dj97

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dj97,

I am a Newbie on any forum. Thank you for allowing me to be apart of this. I respect the discipline and heart everyone has in the gym. If I have questions concerning supplements (gear) or how others prefer to take them, is this the right forum? I'm not new to running gear, but I want to run it perfectly and I'm sure I need help. I'm needing to drop 17-20lbs. I'm using Kigtropin hgh batch# 2013 02 28. I've heard mixed reviews on it and how to run it. What do you think? The instructions says 4ius at bed time. I am Very interested in MC IGF-1 lr3 and ready to get it. The links that are attached (Muscle Depot) and the others. Do any of you recommend any of them and if so which ones? I am also running only 100mg every 3rd day of Tren-Acetate by British Dragon and 250mg of Sus by Advanced Pharma 1 a week. I'm also taking Clen 20mcg 3-4 times a day. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. I'm open to suggestions. I look forward to your help. Thank you.

dj97
 
welcome to MC yes it is right forum. yes MD has good reviews. i dont have experience with HGH. why do you need to drop 20lbs? how long have you been on cycle? using clen?
 
Thank you! I want to drop the weight for personal reasons and I hope to do a show some time this season. I use to have a great six pack and now my total core area is shot. So not happy about that!!! I'm coming back off a lower back injury. Disc 4 & 5 are bulging and I've had to work around that. I'm 2 weeks into the cycle and my first of 2 weeks off of clen.
 
i dont see anything wrong with the cycle but maybe someone with more experience will chime in. how long do you plan on running the cycle? you seem to be handling the injury well by working around it sometimes we can be hasty coming back from injury and cause more problems. have you ever been on a bodybuilding forum before?
 
I'm not sure if your sustain has a normal 4 ester breakdown, but its generally a bad idea to run sustanon once a week, it should be run eod
 
Ok, I hope so. I was planning on running this cycle for 12-15 weeks, but keeping the hgh, MC IGF-1 lr3 on bored and starting Winstrol soon. I am doing ok with working around my injurys. Its a tedious process. I wish Ephedera (Root Abstract) was still on the market to help me burn this 17-20lbs off. No I have never been apart of any bodybuilding forum before.
 
The sus is Test-Prop 30mg, Test-Phenypropionate 60mg, Test-Iso 60mg, and Test-Decoanate 100mg. So eod?? I've never ran Sus like that before.
 
dj97 said:
The sus is Test-Prop 30mg, Test-Phenypropionate 60mg, Test-Iso 60mg, and Test-Decoanate 100mg. So eod?? I've never ran Sus like that before.
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yeah you can get away with once a week, but its NOT optimum at all bro the way sustanon esters are set up, until your long esters kick in, its always best to do sustanon every other day, otherwise your leaving yourself with spikes in your hormone levels which could lead to mood swings, acne and most importantly gyno issues. But yes once a week will work and you will see and feel gains, but its an up and down game with ur hormones the first few weeks which isn't very good.

anyhow your blend isn't too bad with once a week injections. theirs like 15 different blends of sustanon now days lol, so i figured i would ask brutha!
 
dj97 said:
The sus is Test-Prop 30mg, Test-Phenypropionate 60mg, Test-Iso 60mg, and Test-Decoanate 100mg. So eod?? I've never ran Sus like that before.
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If not EOD, I'd definitely at least run it E3D. The only long ester in that group is the Deconate, but it isn't enough to really only pin once a week, I'd recommend EOD, but wouldn't go any longer than every 3 days.

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Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 2 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days
 
Thanks bro for your input. I know there is plenty I don't know and I'm grateful for the help. What's your opinion on me loosing 17-20lbs ASAP??? I must lose it! I'm tapering up and down on T-3 and Clen. I know there's something more i can do....
 
dj97 said:
Thanks bro for your input. I know there is plenty I don't know and I'm grateful for the help. What's your opinion on me loosing 17-20lbs ASAP??? I must lose it! I'm tapering up and down on T-3 and Clen. I know there's something more i can do....
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bro if ur using t-3 and clen with a cycle then the pounds should drip off you! All you need to do now is diet like a mother fucker!
 
Idk, maybe I'm impatient bro. I'm on T-3 now but its my 2weeks off of Clen. Should it be together? I don't have the amount of T-3 I wish I had. I've always been very cautious with the source, and I would like to find another trusting source. I've been using IP, but sometimes he's out of what I need. My T-3 source is gone and I need another one. Is there a source you trust? Hope I'm not out of line by asking.....
 
Diet will be the key, you should lose weight with the cycle and t3/clen, but the diet will help drop the weight in large amounts
 
dj97 said:
Idk, maybe I'm impatient bro. I'm on T-3 now but its my 2weeks off of Clen. Should it be together? I don't have the amount of T-3 I wish I had. I've always been very cautious with the source, and I would like to find another trusting source. I've been using IP, but sometimes he's out of what I need. My T-3 source is gone and I need another one. Is there a source you trust? Hope I'm not out of line by asking.....
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yeah bro No asking for sources
 
Get the igf going man. That will help you lose fat and retain muscle while dieting. BUT.. it might increase your appetite. You have to have food around that is low in calories and high in volume. Brown rice lentils chicken vegetables oatmeal.
 
True... Diet is key. I eat pretty healthy/clean. I was thinking 0carbs for a while. I guess it's just frustrating when I've been in such great shape (10% bf or lower) for the past 13yrs and now I'm needing to drop this much weight after my back injury. I've never had to play catch up like this before. I'm confident I'll get back there.

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Ok... My bad bro
 
Will do, thanks!! I love to eat lol... I keep chicken, salmon, tuna, oatmeal, sweet potatos, veggies and dark red kidney beans on hand all the time. That's pretty much what I eat besides my whey and casein protein.
 
One thing I've noticed from doing comps before, if you're not worried about your weight and simply worried about your "look," eat as much as you want as long as it's clean. When I'd get done with a comp, I'd eat the same foods, just double in portion after the show and I'd pretty much stay at that bodyfat and just add size back on.
 
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