HackTwat
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
I have done some extensive research as of late regarding the use of Proviron. Research from the net as well as various testing methods on myself and another friend of mine. Due to my complete access to a Medical Laboratory, I am able to run certain compounds and do my blood tests to evaluate their effectiveness and/or non-effectiveness.
I have been running Proviron for 2 reasons mainly. One to harden up more with a slight increase in vascularity while lowering my body fat. The second reason was due to the fact I heard that it allows more Free Test to circulate. If you didn't know you should know that building the extra lean muscle we all want requires more "BIO-AVAILABLE" Test, or Free Test. Just overloading on Testosterone for some people isnt a magic key. For the most part it is, but due to numerous factors, one being an increase in SHBG or Sex Hormone Binding Globulin, just increasing Test isnt the only thing we need to do.
Here's an exhert from a conversation I came across that got me diving into this question:..............
"""VNV, I have worked with proviron extensively and it is an amazing molecule. However it predates AIs by decades. Yes it does in a sort of way limit and reduce conversion to estrogen but not the extent or amount. mg per mg AI's are significantly more potent in blocking aromatase. Now there are plenty of patients that with even low does proviron daily can keep their estrogen in check. The only issue is that many times proviron boosts your FREE TESTOSTERONE so much that if you are trying to be on a TRT type dose and supposedly be in a healthy physiologic state, then it throws it off and you end up exposing yourself to a lot more test than normal. For example, i know that giving any adult male 100-150mg a week will bring your total testosterone between 700-1000. Your free testosterone usually is only a few percentage of your total testosterone usually around 5%. So let's say your free would be 50. But those 50 are the ones that are actually doing the work of testosterone and are physiologically active. The rest are all protein bound and pretty useless. So lets say you take 50mg of Proviron a day and now your free test is 300. Well at this point, even though you are taking only 150mg of test weekly, your body no longer is experiencing TRT levels. It would mean that you would have to bring your test levels to 3000 or more lets say to get your free test that high. And before anyone asks, yes you can use proviron to reduce your total test intake and get same results but you have to have baseline test done to know what YOUR free test ratio is to make sense of the numbers and adjust from there."""
Now, there are 2 things we should be taking away from reading this......
1.) By taking Proviron, we are able to raise our Bio-Available Test or Free Test by 6 times its present value with only 50mg daily. From what I have read, most people use anywhere from 25-100mg daily with some taking up to 150mg a day.
That alone has me sold.
2.) Proviron use can allow for a lower dosage of Tetsosterone and recieve a very similar, if not better response in muscle growth due to the simple fact that more Test is actually readily available. Think about it. If a dose of 150mg a week brings your Free Test to say 50 and adding in Proviron at that dose increases it to say 300, then running a dose of 500 week with a daily dose of 50-100mg of Proviron could possibly increase the Free Test level to same number as it would be on a much higher weekly dose of Test. I'm guessing here of course, but I'd be willing to bet that using Proviron at 50-100mg daily would allow 500mg a week of Test to have close to the same effect as 750mg a week of Test.
Unfortunately, we do not run the Free Testosterone at the lab I work in, but we do run Total Testosterone. I tested my Testosterone level before adding in 60mg of Proviron a day. After adding 60mg of Proviron Every Day, after 4 days my Total Testosterone went up by 1000 points. My Testosterone dose remained consistent and the only change was the addition of 60mg Proviron ED.
In my world, that's a positive!!! Just thought I'd share this little bit of recon......
Austin311
I have been running Proviron for 2 reasons mainly. One to harden up more with a slight increase in vascularity while lowering my body fat. The second reason was due to the fact I heard that it allows more Free Test to circulate. If you didn't know you should know that building the extra lean muscle we all want requires more "BIO-AVAILABLE" Test, or Free Test. Just overloading on Testosterone for some people isnt a magic key. For the most part it is, but due to numerous factors, one being an increase in SHBG or Sex Hormone Binding Globulin, just increasing Test isnt the only thing we need to do.
Here's an exhert from a conversation I came across that got me diving into this question:..............
"""VNV, I have worked with proviron extensively and it is an amazing molecule. However it predates AIs by decades. Yes it does in a sort of way limit and reduce conversion to estrogen but not the extent or amount. mg per mg AI's are significantly more potent in blocking aromatase. Now there are plenty of patients that with even low does proviron daily can keep their estrogen in check. The only issue is that many times proviron boosts your FREE TESTOSTERONE so much that if you are trying to be on a TRT type dose and supposedly be in a healthy physiologic state, then it throws it off and you end up exposing yourself to a lot more test than normal. For example, i know that giving any adult male 100-150mg a week will bring your total testosterone between 700-1000. Your free testosterone usually is only a few percentage of your total testosterone usually around 5%. So let's say your free would be 50. But those 50 are the ones that are actually doing the work of testosterone and are physiologically active. The rest are all protein bound and pretty useless. So lets say you take 50mg of Proviron a day and now your free test is 300. Well at this point, even though you are taking only 150mg of test weekly, your body no longer is experiencing TRT levels. It would mean that you would have to bring your test levels to 3000 or more lets say to get your free test that high. And before anyone asks, yes you can use proviron to reduce your total test intake and get same results but you have to have baseline test done to know what YOUR free test ratio is to make sense of the numbers and adjust from there."""
Now, there are 2 things we should be taking away from reading this......
1.) By taking Proviron, we are able to raise our Bio-Available Test or Free Test by 6 times its present value with only 50mg daily. From what I have read, most people use anywhere from 25-100mg daily with some taking up to 150mg a day.
That alone has me sold.
2.) Proviron use can allow for a lower dosage of Tetsosterone and recieve a very similar, if not better response in muscle growth due to the simple fact that more Test is actually readily available. Think about it. If a dose of 150mg a week brings your Free Test to say 50 and adding in Proviron at that dose increases it to say 300, then running a dose of 500 week with a daily dose of 50-100mg of Proviron could possibly increase the Free Test level to same number as it would be on a much higher weekly dose of Test. I'm guessing here of course, but I'd be willing to bet that using Proviron at 50-100mg daily would allow 500mg a week of Test to have close to the same effect as 750mg a week of Test.
Unfortunately, we do not run the Free Testosterone at the lab I work in, but we do run Total Testosterone. I tested my Testosterone level before adding in 60mg of Proviron a day. After adding 60mg of Proviron Every Day, after 4 days my Total Testosterone went up by 1000 points. My Testosterone dose remained consistent and the only change was the addition of 60mg Proviron ED.
In my world, that's a positive!!! Just thought I'd share this little bit of recon......
Austin311
