HGH vs HCG (ding ding)

mroldguy

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So, as I prepare for my first cycle I am trying to figure out if I should go HGH or HCG with my Test E.
My goal is to get a good feel for a cycle while putting on some lean muscle mass at a steady pace!
I would love to hear everyone's opinion and advise on this topic!
 
Here is what I know, or rather what I learned,

[FONT=&quot]When taken as a dietary supplement, e.g. as supplement to the HCGDiet, the hormone sends signals to the hypothalamus of the brain to breakdownbody fat and convert it to fuel to use as the body’s main source of energy.This makes weight loss fast and serious HCG diet side effects areeasily prevented since dieters are well provided with energy. The body systemsremain efficient.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]<o:p></o:p>[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]HGH (human growth hormone) is a hormone the body also producesnaturally however, this occurs when we are younger; production slowly decreasesas we begin to age. HGH is secreted through the pituitary gland of the brain,in which fuels childhood growth and development; it helps to maintain healthytissues and organs. Scientific studies relate the loss of HGH to our agingmetabolic slowdown and weight gain.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]<o:p></o:p>[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]HGH is known to stimulate an increase in muscle mass while alsoreducing body fat. Factors that help to stimulate HGH without supplementationare sleep, exercise, and dietary protein. Oftentimes, similar to hCG, whensupplementing HGH into your diet, there is no presence of the hormone unlesstaken by injections.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]<o:p></o:p>[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In short, hCG as a dietary supplement, is used to attack fatdeposits and convert to fuel for the body. HGH as a dietary supplement is usedto breakdown fat and convert it to lean muscle mass.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]<o:p></o:p>[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Therefore, each hormone clearly serves their own distinctfunctions and there are many controversial claims and studies relating to theirknown impact on reversing the aging process and supporting health andwell-being. HCH are often used for body builders while the HCG hormone is oneof the important components of the HCG weight loss program[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, serif]SO when looking at PSL Beginners Cycle and the 4ever young and fit cycle I am seeing similar outcomes but different avenues? or am i missing it which is entirely possible. <o:p></o:p>[/FONT]
 
​The hcg diet was a fad....mainly for women...and it was used to promote oral hcg drops which are COMPLETELY USELESS. It was supposed to suppress appetite and promote weight loss. HGH is king for fat loss, but you have to run it for a long time before you see anything noteworthy.
 
[FONT=&quot]When exogenous AAS are put intothe male body, natural negative-feedback loops cause the body to shut down itsown production of [/FONT][FONT=&quot]testosterone via shutdown of thehypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis (HPGA). This causes testicular atrophy,among other things. HCG is commonly used during and after steroid cycles tomaintain and restore testicular size as well as normal testosterone production.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]<o:p></o:p>[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]High levels of AASs,that mimic the body's natural testosterone, trigger the hypothalamus to shut down its production of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus. WithoutGnRH, the pituitary gland stops releasing luteinizing hormone (LH). LH normally travels from thepituitary via the blood stream to the testes, where it triggers the productionand release of testosterone. Without LH, the testes shut down their productionof testosterone. In males, HCG helps restore andmaintain testosterone production in the testes by mimicking LH and triggeringthe production and release of testosterone.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]<o:p></o:p>[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If HCGis used for too long and in too high a dose, the resulting rise in naturaltestosterone would eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedbackon the hypothalamus and pituitary gland


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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]with that, HCG run in conjunction with other AAS will help maintain normal natural test levels during cycle??[/FONT]
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Yes, HCG more or less forces the body to keep producing test and sperm. Its primary off label use is to help men on TRT to have babies. I use it while on TRT to keep the boys plump - no shrinkage if you are using HCG.
 
Yes, HCG more or less forces the body to keep producing test and sperm. Its primary off label use is to help men on TRT to have babies. I use it while on TRT to keep the boys plump - no shrinkage if you are using HCG.

Hey Cyber, do you run it through the entire cycle? For this cycle I'm either going to run 12 to 16 weeks test e 500, deca 400 a week, anadrol for first 4 weeks. I'll run aromasin and dostinex... I've read a lot of different ways to do the HCG (last 4 weeks do it at 1000iu a week... some say 250iu twice a week through the cycle, some say 500iu once a week through cycle).
 
Hey Cyber, do you run it through the entire cycle? For this cycle I'm either going to run 12 to 16 weeks test e 500, deca 400 a week, anadrol for first 4 weeks. I'll run aromasin and dostinex... I've read a lot of different ways to do the HCG (last 4 weeks do it at 1000iu a week... some say 250iu twice a week through the cycle, some say 500iu once a week through cycle).
500-1000iu/week throughout cycle is becoming the norm. Post cycle blasting is an outdated method IMO....why do that when you can just run a maintenance dose and keep them plump all cycle without having to overstimulate them?
 
500-1000iu/week throughout cycle is becoming the norm. Post cycle blasting is an outdated method IMO....why do that when you can just run a maintenance dose and keep them plump all cycle without having to overstimulate them?

True! would you do once a week 500iu or what? I'd love to do just once a week with my test/deca shot instead of twice a week hahah.... also, may be a dumb question but, once you break an amp to use it... can you close it back up? How do you store the remaining hcg once it's open?
 
ok all good info, but why would anyone be asking which one they should use between HGH and HCG, when they're two totally separate things, thats where I'm lost
 
ok all good info, but why would anyone be asking which one they should use between HGH and HCG, when they're two totally separate things, thats where I'm lost

understandable, I should have done more research first.
I ask because when looking at 2 PSL (canned) cycles that seem similar yet one uses HCG and the other uses HGH.
they are beginner / bridge cycles. That is where and why the question originated.

#A
300 mgs Test Enanthate per week
3 IUs GH Mon-Fri(weekend break)
10 mgs Aromasen every other day

#B
1-12 weeks 500mg Testosterone Enanthate (weekly)
1-12 weeks 10-20mg Aromasin Everyday to every other day (If needed)
1-12 weeks 250iu HCG twice a week

PCT:

12-16 weeks 20mg Tamoxifen every day
12-16 weeks 50mg Clomid every day

 
Besides I warned you all I had some dumb questions! even though I am old I am an absolute NOOB when it comes to this.
That is why I am here at MC, to learn from the experts!
 
I am on TRT, so I never to PCT...I run HCG all year round, forever. I tested both 250IU twice a week and 500IU once a week and noticed no difference.

You can freeze the HCG for a year without degrading the HCG, at least that is what the insert says in my pharma grade HCG (and it says it in many languages, so it must be true - heh). Anyway, I simply preload a ton of 29g 1/2in pins (using the backloading method) and then freeze them. I keep two in the fridge and replace them from the freezer when I use the last of the two. They warm up fast in the hand, so no worries there. I leave a little airspace in the pin just in case there is some expansion...and when I go to use it I move the plunger down then back up (removing all the air) prior to use. I noticed that sometimes the rubber stopper does not move easily at first.
 
I am on TRT, so I never to PCT...I run HCG all year round, forever. I tested both 250IU twice a week and 500IU once a week and noticed no difference.

You can freeze the HCG for a year without degrading the HCG, at least that is what the insert says in my pharma grade HCG (and it says it in many languages, so it must be true - heh). Anyway, I simply preload a ton of 29g 1/2in pins (using the backloading method) and then freeze them. I keep two in the fridge and replace them from the freezer when I use the last of the two. They warm up fast in the hand, so no worries there. I leave a little airspace in the pin just in case there is some expansion...and when I go to use it I move the plunger down then back up (removing all the air) prior to use. I noticed that sometimes the rubber stopper does not move easily at first.

Thanks! I was thinking about just preloading the syringes.. do you mix it with water before injection or just inject the hcg? I read that a lot of people will dissolve it in water and then put it into a vial for reuse
 
My HCG comes in powder form and I have to add BAC water to it. I make the entire ampule of HCG in one shot, at the concentration level I want. I put in 0.5ml of bac water into the opened ampule and swirl it around until mixed. I then pull it all out of the ampule and put it into a mixing bottle. I add enough BAC water to get the concentration I want and then just keep filling syringes until the mixing bottle is empty.
 
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