Help a brotha out

Hello friends,
i can't say that I'm sure yet but im considering starting a low dose cycle. I've been lifting for a while and have gotten great results (145 lbs- 198 lbs in 4 years). I'm not looking to compete or anything, I just have a true fascination with how effective some of these substances can be.

Im not afraid of needles and am a bit of a health junkie so no orals, as I've read they are terrible for the liver and kidneys (and probably the stomach lmao). Ideally I'm looking for something that I can use once, maybe twice a week to gain a slight edge. I'm not looking to blow up in a matter of weeks Because I don't want it to be obvious. I'm 20 so fast slight gains would be noticeable, but not ridiculous. I've seen guys my age get on and put 35 pounds on in a 8 week cycle.... No bullshit. I don't want my natural hard work up to this point to be shit on by some dick who's gunna say "oh if he's on now he's probably always been on"

joined this site specifically to ask this question. Bring it on.

Welcome and I moved this into anabolic steroid discussion forum as it was posted in lottery forum

in ur poll I chose testosterone, but at 20 years old you shouldn't take anything yet , u have a lot of natural growing years ahead

bump for thakid

I agree - wait until 25ish. From your post, you are looking for some small benefits over the long term (very mature apptoach for your age - i applaud you), so getting the most out of your natural abilities is your best bet, and then, if you still wsnt to, trying to gain more results from artificial trstosterone or whatnot.

Just remember that even one short cycle can shut down natural production more or less permanently, so ibwould eke out every last ounce of natural ability first before taking that risk.

I agree with the above statements. if you absolutely must do one then Test it is. Always start small and work your way up.

Agreed

Well damn. I hadn't realized it could shut down production all together. 25 ish was my original number.. I wanted to get the most out of my natural test but I have a buddy who's about to jump on some test so it got the thoughts stirring haha. I'll probably wait but I was doing some research and found this site. There's a ton of cool info on here even if you're not trying to get on anything. And its nice to have a place to talk about it openly without all the bullshit.
Thanks gents,
tha kid

Thakid said:

Well damn. I hadn't realized it could shut down production all together. 25 ish was my original number.. I wanted to get the most out of my natural test but I have a buddy who's about to jump on some test so it got the thoughts stirring haha. I'll probably wait but I was doing some research and found this site. There's a ton of cool info on here even if you're not trying to get on anything. And its nice to have a place to talk about it openly without all the bullshit.
Thanks gents,
tha kid

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Research is key, and i commend you fr doing it. Most people just jump in without looking, and screw themselves up because of it....or they watch these internet mavens and shove 3cc's into every muscle group every day. LOL

Thakid said:

There's a ton of cool info on here even if you're not trying to get on anything. And its nice to have a place to talk about it openly without all the bullshit.

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First of all, welcome to MC! I know I'm just a girl (lol), but my only advice would be to listen to the guys here. That's your best bet IMO... especially since it sounds as though your health is priority over gaining a few lbs of muscle (as it should be). And I agree with the others, you sound quite mature for 20 yr. old.

Thakid, if you do decide to wait a couple years before you start to experiment with AAS, that doesn't mean you can't stick around here and soak up all the knowledge from the guys here. Not only that, but we get so many new young members that get the bug and want to take stuff regardless of the consequences. It would be nice to have someone like you around to share your experience. I mean, gaining 50+ lbs w/out being on anything speaks for itself.

I'll throw my 2 cents in here, also.

First, I totally agree with the advice you have gotten here and also welcome you to MC. Stick around, there's plenty to learn about training and diet besides AAS.

Here's my somewhat unconventional advice: Have your doctor get you a full hormone panel workup. You're probably at your peak in terms of testosterone production. When you're in your mid 40's like me and things aren't doing what they should be, it would be real nice to have a reference from 20 or so years old.

Last, while you've made some fantastic gains in 4 years, look closely at some of the guys' logs, paying particular attention to their diets. You must be on the right track already, given your 50 lbs in 4 years, assuming those are 50 lean lbs. But I bet you could keep gaining if you tune up your diet.

Welcome to MuscleChemistry.com. Its good to have you here and your in the right place. I'm gonna agree with everyone. Wait... but please stick around and contribute or ask any questions you might have.

I will always go to test 1st before anything....but i also started at 28... keep reading and learning... the best results i ever seen was after i was educated. ..

Peptides/SARMS? I would listen to what others have mentioned, but if you're going to do one of the two listed above I would choose test. If you're just looking for a slight edge however, I would start with peptides and research chems. Some may disagree with good reason, but that is what I would do.

I read everything I could regarding AAS use for over a year before I made the leap.

Read, read more, and read even more.

Best advice