1. #1
    cyber-suppz Board Certified Psy.D

    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    GYM
    Posts
    448
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147484103

    Default COMBAT TRENBOLONE (TREN) SIDES WITH CARDARINE

    Trenbolone is an illegal anabolic steroid that is widely known for its ability to incredibly increase muscle mass and increase fat loss, it was, after all, developed to drastically increase the size of cattle. It is one of, if not the strongest anabolic steroid in the world and while it can provide its user with great anabolic benefits, being the strongest steroid does not come without its side effects.

    Users of trenbolone have reported a whole host of negative side effects such as, night sweats, drastically reduced endurance (poor cardio), loss of libido, shortness of breath, increased blood pressure and a poor balance between cholesterol levels (high LDL and low HDL). This lengthy list of side effects is likely to turn most people away from this drug.

    Enter
    Cardarine (GW-501516). Cardarine is a PPAR modulator (often categorized as a SARM) which is widely used for its ability to burn fat and improve endurance. Cardarine does not have any known side-effects (within the normal dosing range) and that makes it a great addition to any cycle, whether it’s for burning fat in a cut, reducing fat storage in a bulk or to prepare yourself for any activity that requires you to be in great cardiovascular shape.

    Cardarine pairs well with Trenbolone because it can counteract a lot of the side effects of the drug. For one, Cardarine is great for improving endurance levels. Many athletes choose Cardarine because it helps them to push further, recover faster and greatly improves their cardiovascular health. Since Tren severely reduces your cardio, running Cardarine would be a very good idea.

    Another benefit of pairing the two is due to Cardarine’s ability to improve lipid levels. Studies have shown that gw501516
    has a positive impact on the balance between the good cholesterol (HDL) and the bad cholesterol (LDL). Tren, as we know, has the opposite effect so once again, Cardarine acts as a good counterbalance.

    A number of studies have also shown that
    Cardarine helps to lower high blood pressure (also another side-effect of Tren).

    CARDARINE IS NOW AVAILIBLE AT https://www.musclechemadvancedsupps.com
    Thanks LeatherHead, pgb thanked for this post
    Likes GotTren, Geo237, LeatherHead, pgb, 70Nova liked this post
     

  2. #2
    Hiatus Board Certified Psy.D

    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    449
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    These two have a great synergistic feel to them. I have ran them together and it does decrease some of the sides


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Likes LeatherHead liked this post
     

  3. #3
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    I have heard it only increases cardio tren kills and improves lipids. On tren it's the bp and anxiety that are my problem.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Just a grateful member!!

  4. #4
    MuscleChemistry Newbie Board Certified Psy.D

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    76
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    151

    Default

    i really wish there was something that would help with the night sweats. Every morning i would wake up with soaking wet bedsheets. my wife got pissed because she had to buy extra sheets and then do a lot of washing.
    Likes yellow snow liked this post
     

  5. #5
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Husky1 View Post
    i really wish there was something that would help with the night sweats. Every morning i would wake up with soaking wet bedsheets. my wife got pissed because she had to buy extra sheets and then do a lot of washing.
    Mu wife can't complain about me she soaks through two towels. Lmao!!!

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Thanks jimbosmith316 thanked for this post
    Likes jimbosmith316 liked this post
     
    Just a grateful member!!

  6. #6
    cyber-suppz Board Certified Psy.D

    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    GYM
    Posts
    448
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147484103

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Husky1 View Post
    i really wish there was something that would help with the night sweats. Every morning i would wake up with soaking wet bedsheets. my wife got pissed because she had to buy extra sheets and then do a lot of washing.
    I have the same issue with my wife. The pillow cases on our pillows are almost 2 different colors now. I ruin the color & wear. Ah the tren life.

    www.TheSupplementoutlet.com
    Likes LeatherHead liked this post
     

  7. #7
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    My wife gotta keep extra sets from doing the deed, so it doesn't matter

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Likes Cyber-Suppz liked this post
     
    Just a grateful member!!

  8. #8
    Hiatus Board Certified Psy.D

    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    449
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    I always run with the fan on high and sleep naked. Definitely helps!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     

  9. #9
    MuscleChemistry Guru Board Certified CPH
    yellow snow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    1,767
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    4
    Rep Power
    2147485419

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Husky1 View Post
    i really wish there was something that would help with the night sweats. Every morning i would wake up with soaking wet bedsheets. my wife got pissed because she had to buy extra sheets and then do a lot of washing.
    I know that this could all be in my head, but caber seems to help with all the tren sides other than the anger. I sleep better and have fewer night sweats when using caber...............to each his own.
    Thanks LeatherHead thanked for this post
     
    Beach bodies are made in the winter.

  10. #10
    MuscleChemistry Newbie Residency Training

    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    10
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by yellow snow View Post
    I know that this could all be in my head, but caber seems to help with all the tren sides other than the anger. I sleep better and have fewer night sweats when using caber...............to each his own.

    Always wanted to try caber. Pretty expensive from what I see. I use exemastane for e2.
    Likes yellow snow liked this post
     

  11. #11
    MuscleChemistry Guru Board Certified CPH
    yellow snow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    1,767
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    4
    Rep Power
    2147485419

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbull View Post
    Always wanted to try caber. Pretty expensive from what I see. I use exemastane for e2.
    I am one of the "lucky" ones, I have a progressive doc and I have a script for it!!
    Likes Cyber-Suppz liked this post
     
    Beach bodies are made in the winter.

  12. #12
    cyber-suppz Board Certified Psy.D

    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    GYM
    Posts
    448
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147484103

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by yellow snow View Post
    I am one of the "lucky" ones, I have a progressive doc and I have a script for it!!
    Nice!

    https://www.musclechemadvancedsupps.com
    Thanks GotTren thanked for this post
    Likes GotTren liked this post
     

  13. #13
    MuscleChemistry Guru Board Certified MD
    LeatherHead's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    FLORIDA
    Posts
    6,002
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    1
    Rep Power
    2147489660

    Default

    Just got my Cardarine last night. Will start dosing Sunday and start logging it on Monday here on MC. Will be pairing it up with Test Cyp and Tren A, along with MC IGF.
    Likes Muscle mechanic liked this post
     
    Fear No Man In This World... Nor the Next

  14. #14
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by LeatherHead View Post
    Just got my Cardarine last night. Will start dosing Sunday and start logging it on Monday here on MC. Will be pairing it up with Test Cyp and Tren A, along with MC IGF.
    I have some gw at home that I have been having. I got a gram or two raw and some caps. I was thinking about throwing it into the mix right now.

    Leather head when I used it before I just focused on not eating any junk, I ate more meat less carbs and didn't eat anything past 7:00 at night only drank 25 grams protein in water.

    After about a week u should notice u not as hungry and not bothered by eating less or not having anything like at night or between meals. What gives this affect is that your body is in favor with gw of burning stored fat for energy instead of calories consumed. U will not have a carb or diet crash. Do me a favor and this community and take note of this affect and let us know!


    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Just a grateful member!!

  15. #15
    Ph.D. P.E.D. Kinesiology Intramuscular Injection Certified Board Certified MD
    Presser's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    38,274
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    218
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Cardarine gw 501516 short tren relief write up
    Author: Ben Presser
    Ph.D. P.E.D. Kinesiology
    Intramuscular Injection Certified

    The Most Reviewed IGF-1 lr3 On the Internet- PERIOD!

  16. #16
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Cardarine gw 501516 short tren relief write up
    My lipids bad.
    May have to give a run just for that.
    Just need to recover from tren run and I weeks if Anadrol 50mg a day for 8 weeks from spring.
    Was wondering if the SR9009 helped lipids?
    Something I never look into.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Likes Presser liked this post
     
    Just a grateful member!!

  17. #17
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    big in vegas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Hell
    Posts
    18,534
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147502191

    Default

    MM are you saying you ran 50mg of anadrol for 8 weeks?

    I just started cardarine yesterday. I am 2 weeks into my trenbolone acetate , Cypionate, propionate cycle. So I should have something to report on whether the cardarine helped me with being so dang winded from trenbolone
    Likes Presser liked this post
     

    "Pissing excellence and shitting perfection."

  18. #18
    Ph.D. P.E.D. Kinesiology Intramuscular Injection Certified Board Certified MD
    Presser's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    38,274
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    218
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Curious of the anadrol to

    and the Cardarine helping with trenbolone issues related to being out of breath or winded easily
    Author: Ben Presser
    Ph.D. P.E.D. Kinesiology
    Intramuscular Injection Certified

    The Most Reviewed IGF-1 lr3 On the Internet- PERIOD!

  19. #19
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Curious of the anadrol to

    and the Cardarine helping with trenbolone issues related to being out of breath or winded easily
    Yes 50mg for 8 werks of Anadrol during lean bulk then I cut with the tren,mast,prop, primo and var. Little winny
    LDL went up 50 points.
    Wtf??
    But also was coming back from t3/t4 that affects LDL.
    Will retest soon

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Just a grateful member!!

  20. #20
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by big in vegas View Post
    MM are you saying you ran 50mg of anadrol for 8 weeks?

    I just started cardarine yesterday. I am 2 weeks into my trenbolone acetate , Cypionate, propionate cycle. So I should have something to report on whether the cardarine helped me with being so dang winded from trenbolone
    Yes 50mg Anadrol 8 weeks in lean bulk then I cut with tren and crew.
    My bloods on here they weren't that bad. I expected it. Contest was too close to labs...

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Just a grateful member!!

  21. #21
    MuscleChemistry Newbie Residency Training

    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Posts
    1
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Are there reports of cardarine not helping trenbolone side effects? I don’t want to grab something that doesn’t help half the people who use it to combat tren effects
    Likes Muscle mechanic, Ox 51 liked this post
     

  22. #22
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The Governor View Post
    Are there reports of cardarine not helping trenbolone side effects? I donít want to grab something that doesnít help half the people who use it to combat tren effects
    Cardarine will help your lipids while on tren or not!!
    It's your choice but can't go wrong with anything MC store has...

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Just a grateful member!!

  23. #23
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The Governor View Post
    Are there reports of cardarine not helping trenbolone side effects? I don’t want to grab something that doesn’t help half the people who use it to combat tren effects
    Welcome to MC brother!!
    In general forum u can do an intro so members can welcome u and help u if u need any.
    Glad to have u here!
    Just a grateful member!!

  24. #24
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    Bumping for sides tren can cause and what can help

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Just a grateful member!!

  25. #25
    MuscleChemistry Newbie Residency Training
    almightyalpha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    20
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Bumping for sides tren can cause and what can help

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Beat thing to help lipids (Maybe not from just tren) 2-3 G fish oil, 200-600mg of Coq10 a day, vit d3 with k2, and krill oil as well. That definitely helps your lipids.. Depending on your stats Anyway. If you run tren for a year straight lol naw. Might as well just rip your heart out lol

    Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
    Thanks Muscle mechanic thanked for this post
    Likes Muscle mechanic, Presser liked this post
     

  26. #26
    MuscleChemistry Registered Member Board Certified MD
    Muscle mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,676
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    2147487327

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by almightyalpha View Post
    Beat thing to help lipids (Maybe not from just tren) 2-3 G fish oil, 200-600mg of Coq10 a day, vit d3 with k2, and krill oil as well. That definitely helps your lipids.. Depending on your stats Anyway. If you run tren for a year straight lol naw. Might as well just rip your heart out lol

    Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
    Great to see u big guy!!
    U the man

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Just a grateful member!!

  27. #27
    MuscleChemistry Newbie Residency Training
    almightyalpha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    20
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    0
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Hey brotha man! I hope you're doing well!
    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Great to see u big guy!!
    U the man

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
     

  28. #28
    Ph.D. P.E.D. Kinesiology Intramuscular Injection Certified Board Certified MD
    Presser's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    38,274
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    218
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Bumping for sides tren can cause and what can help

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
    Shit loads of water , i know without a ton of water , and i mean for me i need to drink alot when i use tren, otherwise my piss is so dark, i have to flush the toilet twice to get it clear again lmao
    Likes Muscle mechanic liked this post
     
    Author: Ben Presser
    Ph.D. P.E.D. Kinesiology
    Intramuscular Injection Certified

    The Most Reviewed IGF-1 lr3 On the Internet- PERIOD!

  29. #29
    Ph.D. P.E.D. Kinesiology Intramuscular Injection Certified Board Certified MD
    Presser's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    38,274
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    218
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Thanks jimbosmith316 thanked for this post
    Likes jimbosmith316 liked this post
     
    Author: Ben Presser
    Ph.D. P.E.D. Kinesiology
    Intramuscular Injection Certified

    The Most Reviewed IGF-1 lr3 On the Internet- PERIOD!

  30. #30
    Ph.D. P.E.D. Kinesiology Intramuscular Injection Certified Board Certified MD
    Presser's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    38,274
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    218
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Endurabolic aka Cardarine, a Trenbolone users best friend
    Thanks jimbosmith316 thanked for this post
    Likes jimbosmith316 liked this post
     
    Author: Ben Presser
    Ph.D. P.E.D. Kinesiology
    Intramuscular Injection Certified

    The Most Reviewed IGF-1 lr3 On the Internet- PERIOD!

  31. #31
    MuscleChemistry Guru Board Certified DMD
    Boomer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Sydney Australia
    Posts
    989
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    8
    Rep Power
    1089820

    Default

    What tren doses are UA lot running to have such side effects?
    C'mon!.. give me two more! .. lets get serious!"

  32. #32
    BigZ MC Site Admin Board Certified MD

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    2,076
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    15
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Actually, it doesn't take much tren to get the sides, especially if you run tren E even at just 200mg/week. My last cycle, I used tren E for 20 weeks—really. I probably could have used some cardarine, but I did sort of get used to the breathlessness since I already live in high altitude.
    Likes yellow snow liked this post
     

  33. #33
    MuscleChemistry Guru Board Certified CPH
    yellow snow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    1,767
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    4
    Rep Power
    2147485419

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BigZ View Post
    Actually, it doesn't take much tren to get the sides, especially if you run tren E even at just 200mg/week. My last cycle, I used tren E for 20 weeks—really. I probably could have used some cardarine, but I did sort of get used to the breathlessness since I already live in high altitude.
    If you are cutting using Tren, then cardarine is a staple or Cardio just plain sucks way more than normal.
    Beach bodies are made in the winter.

  34. #34
    MuscleChemistry Guru Board Certified DMD
    Boomer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Sydney Australia
    Posts
    989
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    8
    Rep Power
    1089820

    Default

    Yeah carrying tools up stairs for work sucks ass by the time I get to the top I have to sit down to catch my breath
    C'mon!.. give me two more! .. lets get serious!"

  35. #35
    BigZ MC Site Admin Board Certified MD

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    2,076
    M-Chem Coin = $1
    15
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Tren makes me feel like Po from Kung Fu Panda after he's gone up the long stairs to the Jade Temple, lol. It's actually kind of funny considering we supposedly look like we're healthy, but then people see us wheezing after just going up a flight of stairs, and they look at us strangely like, "what's wrong with you?"

Similar Threads

  1. Trenbolone, Cardarine (GW) and Cardio. Tren and SARMs
    By MarvelMe in forum Peptide HGH IGF 1 Discussion
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 08-05-2019, 03:22 PM
  2. Trenbolone Acetate, Tren Hex & Tren Cyclo (Parabolan) Trenbolone Enanthate
    By Chris250 in forum Bodybuilding Steroid & Training Articles
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 07-23-2018, 04:34 PM
  3. pramipexole to combat progesterone sides?
    By igomad in forum MuscleChemistry Discussion
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-03-2012, 09:43 PM
  4. Dosing for Prami to combat Prolactin sides
    By Pharm_Fed in forum MuscleChemistry Discussion
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 02-12-2012, 07:07 PM
  5. what does everyone take to combat progesterone sides
    By thate1 in forum MuscleChemistry Discussion
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-17-2002, 06:23 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in