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    Ok guys I have bought a decent amount of gear over the last year and a half....mostly from sponsors that have great prices,,,,here is my question...I see some ugl's like alpha or pharmacon that sale their gear almost twice as much as some of the sponsors I've dealt with here....soooo why...i understand some people are under dosed but if they were they would get called out quick and haven't seen that but a couple times....so why should I buy the 115$ a bottle tren vs the 50$ a bottle tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitfowl1983 View Post
    Ok guys I have bought a decent amount of gear over the last year and a half....mostly from sponsors that have great prices,,,,here is my question...I see some ugl's like alpha or pharmacon that sale their gear almost twice as much as some of the sponsors I've dealt with here....soooo why...i understand some people are under dosed but if they were they would get called out quick and haven't seen that but a couple times....so why should I buy the 115$ a bottle tren vs the 50$ a bottle tren

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    U need to understand underdosed isn't the deal.
    Across the pond import makes $$$ cost each time.
    The way it is too is a brand that has a reputation and good standard can put $ on it.
    I can go buy a pure bred lab for $$$
    Or my friend can give me one for free

    Which dog us better? The better dog is better if it's used for hunting or a pet.
    But the branded paper one is valued because of a paper a pure bred!

    With anything it's can be the same.
    I know I have used ugl gear and put my trt pharmacy test away.

    If I was a supplier I would want good gear so I have return customers and no complaints. If the motive is success and avoid trouble and problems why not do that.

    This is what can happen excellent gear ugl well another may want to rob his customers. Easy rig bad reviews rig people changing to your place.

    This can happen ugl good money good gets coke habit fills half dose in gear.
    Bad habits can bring people down gambling lots of things.

    Or a bad raw batch.

    These brands have standard to assure that doesn't happen especially if pharmacy approved maybe not fda but somewhere.

    But get in with right ugl and know your man and be a loyal customer and u will know something before it happens.

    It doesn't take long for the truth to be told!!!

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    Thanks I've been using mostly one guy, from here except for one time I used someone else and they sent me the wrong gear and was not willing to fix it,,,and I don't have any problems saying who that was...UK gear...in which there website is down now so I'm guessing they aren't around anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitfowl1983 View Post
    Thanks I've been using mostly one guy, from here except for one time I used someone else and they sent me the wrong gear and was not willing to fix it,,,and I don't have any problems saying who that was...UK gear...in which there website is down now so I'm guessing they aren't around anymore...

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    They are around may have changed things up.
    They just come out with a whole new section of products list.
    But anyway I would always be crystal clear about what I may want. No abbrevations no typos!
    But it's like this. When I find a place that is good I look no further. When I am curious about any place it is normally that gear isn't up to par!!!
    Cheaper isn't always worth leaving a good place.
    If some things is 70 per but good and I am getting what I need and want I am not taking a chance of 50 per else where.
    Just saying and acne to me has nothing to do with gear quality.
    I have kalpa gear sitting up. I don't like it. Pip and weak yes weak but acne city.
    Why? Maybe oils and solvents used!!!
    Acne doesn't mean quality at all.

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    Well the only reason I went looking other places was because my main source just didn't have everything I wanted....I prefer domestic and would like someone who carries hcg and actual winstrol inject instead of pills...if I could find everything I needed at one place that's domestic I'd buy from the all the time....but so far alot of domestic guys don't have everything that international does.

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    Personally, I wish we could get at least a couple of states to legalize AAS. Far less dangerous than marijuana IMO or even alcohol. That would solve a lot of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZ View Post
    Personally, I wish we could get at least a couple of states to legalize AAS. Far less dangerous than marijuana IMO or even alcohol. That would solve a lot of the problem.
    I agree 100%.
    I wish we would do something. Like start coming out the wood works when there is a trail for a non-violent simple case. Just a peaceful deal. Or start signing petitions and sending them to all of our congresses.
    I don't like the Marijuana thing at all. I smoked my share of pot trust me. And our children think that it's no big deal because it's legal or whatever in one state are another.
    I am not stopping using gear and other hormones peptides gh I am not.
    And it's stupid completely it should be available over the counter for adults over whatever age 30 would be fine.
    The deal is they can't stop hard drugs but they can do better if our hard earned tax money is spent on it instead of raw powder deal. They wanna clean it all up then do just that. Over the counter

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    When I use HG or a reliable lab like Alpha, Shree Venk, or BM results are night and day 500/600 of BM test or 75mg Shree Drol blows away 90%+ of UGs out there...if it didn't then people with the means to higher quality wouldn't go out of their way for it
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    I hear Partax is an excellent pharma brand in Europe.
    And they are ChEEeaAP!!!!

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    I started off buying cheaper gear and many of these sources you get what you pay for. Hell I'm a rep and still get gear from other sources at times because it's cheaper and still quality I'm a best bang for your buck type guy and most of my friends are cheap. Now when it comes to my wife I only want her running the best and price doesn't matter.

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    I will say this. The only way to know is thru lab work like with testosterone.
    Or purity test I know Pharmacon has good ones.
    Something else is this.
    Those of us on trt can't use ugl for our bloods. And believe it or not most guys I know who tried
    They came in TOO HIGH at same label dose.
    Dr not happy when we too high.
    Imported to have proper dose and sometimes that is paid for rather than stronger.
    I know if I think something will be better it usually is. When I think I will suck it normally does!!!
    A placebo group is done in studies because mindset has alot to do with result of what we take!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    I will say this. The only way to know is thru lab work like with testosterone.
    Or purity test I know Pharmacon has good ones.
    Something else is this.
    Those of us on trt can't use ugl for our bloods. And believe it or not most guys I know who tried
    They came in TOO HIGH at same label dose.
    Dr not happy when we too high.
    Imported to have proper dose and sometimes that is paid for rather than stronger.
    I know if I think something will be better it usually is. When I think I will suck it normally does!!!
    A placebo group is done in studies because mindset has alot to do with result of what we take!!!

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    Exactly this is very important for females sometimes products are overdosed and you think you might be taking 10mg of winny a day and it's actually 25 because the manufacturing process can be flawed especially with orals. These larger ugl have everything the pharmaceutical companies do they make more selling underground access to quality raws and all the latest equipment
     

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    Something else is testosterone is easy raw to manufacture a cheap raw to purchase so no point in not being dosed enough!
    Tren is more costly but popular and demand high enough to have readily supply.
    Primo costly
    Avar costly
    There is a comfort with knowing what u doing is exactly what it says, that there is no chance of contamination or unsterility!!!
    Knowing u can use for trt!
    Trust it for your wife!
    Trust that you can do the 600-800 mg of primo a week without it being eq and if eq is in this cycle too red blood cells can become a problem!!!
    Also if I know I need this amount of this and that amount of that and I don't spill over water or aromatase and I got a competition!
    If doses aren't correct that can screw me up and my results big time!


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    Like the guy wanting to make letro caps last week. If I think I'm taking .5mg of letro and it's actually 1.25mg I will feel like hell
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronJulius View Post
    Like the guy wanting to make letro caps last week. If I think I'm taking .5mg of letro and it's actually 1.25mg I will feel like hell
    Exactly!!! It's knowing what u got or thinking u do!
    But I think Pharmacon is very reasonable and quality is without a doubt!!!

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    Search around and find the least costly that serves you best and stick with them. If your supplier used good quality raws and is reputable then their gear should be on point and not priced crazy high. Some people are just waay too proud of their gear. When you can make a vial of test p 100 for 3-5 dollars they are still killing it at 30 bucks a vial. The problem is too many middlemen involved and each time the price goes up. Now when you get into exotic blends it takes someone who really knows what they are doing to keep them stable and these will cost you no matter what. I saw one a while back called Freak Builder and it was $150 per vial but it had like 8 compounds in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZ View Post
    Personally, I wish we could get at least a couple of states to legalize AAS. Far less dangerous than marijuana IMO or even alcohol. That would solve a lot of the problem.
    Alcohol and tobacco kill WAY more people every day than AAS does a year. But AAS doesn't line the politicians pockets like booze and tobacco companies do. That's the main reason why you can put alcohol and tobacco into your body at a rapid rate on a daily basis, but you can't actually put something into your body that will help you be stronger, faster, healthier. They finally smartened up and realized that they could make a fortune by taxing weed and making it legal... so now weed is legal in certain states. The rules aren't in place to protect us, or to help us, they are in place to make the government money. Lots and lots of money. That's all it boils down to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeatherHead View Post
    Alcohol and tobacco kill WAY more people every day than AAS does a year. But AAS doesn't line the politicians pockets like booze and tobacco companies do. That's the main reason why you can put alcohol and tobacco into your body at a rapid rate on a daily basis, but you can't actually put something into your body that will help you be stronger, faster, healthier. They finally smartened up and realized that they could make a fortune by taxing weed and making it legal... so now weed is legal in certain states. The rules aren't in place to protect us, or to help us, they are in place to make the government money. Lots and lots of money. That's all it boils down to.
    Hold up, how many recorded died from gear last year???

    Listen to this please fellas.
    At my house is live with our 3 kids and wife. They get sick often not me. Everyone I know gets sick more than me. Sad to say but I don't like to brag on amounts or lengths but I have basically stayed on a high cruise for the past decade for the most part with lots of blast.

    I will admit steroids have shut me down. Only have two kids trust me I haven't been fertile enough but just enough for one to make it twice and when u know u not fertile u don't worry about careful if u know what I mean!!!

    Steroids also have caused me to develop secondary polycythemia. Have to keep up with Dr order therapeutic phlebotomy as often as every three weeks.

    My kids their dr was giving them prednisone constantly. I am know slouch when it comes to knowing about things. This dr was telling my wife constantly they had ring worm fungus that our animals were problem. Lmao!!!
    I told my wife have dr call me to talk about animal problem.
    Dr called I told her to stop giving my kids prednisone because if it were me I would say no thankfully but my wife thinks that yall dr know everything. I told her I didn't want my kids on prednisone to suppress their immune system and while they recovering have to go back get the anti fungus cream u then give for that. This dr was giving prednisone for every cough or weeze and sneeze and the steroid cream for every bump she called exzma. Then the fungal cream saying it was ring worm. Corticosteroids suppress immune system and cause fungus of skin looks like ring worm.
    Them anti fungal oral meds are hard on liver.
    Dr quit doing this kids aren't going back once a month.
    My point is dr do more sorry but FUCKED UP stuff then writing anabolic steroids the other kinds are worse yes especially with kids development of immunity!!!!
    I will use my gear and peptides and GH and not stopping period. Who want to I advise u be over 30-40 or cycle on and off safe have your kids than use them safe after that!!!
    And this is part of topic because with that said they should be over counter or from a licensed facilities if the government thinks they can't allow un taxed dollars being made.
    Dr will have u more fucked up with shit approved by fda if u visit them too often!!!


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    Exactly my point. Alcohol and tobacco kill more people in one single day, than aas will kill all year, maybe even all decade.

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    Higher quality UG or HG usually have less impurities, less binders, You get better results and feel healthier on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyJohn View Post
    Higher quality UG or HG usually have less impurities, less binders, You get better results and feel healthier on it
    That's right. And synthetic oils are making a statement.
    There were several UG labs busted with heavy metal contamination, impurities in the gear!
    I am grateful in all my years i never hit any dirty stuff. I research as much as I can because u never know.

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