Test Suspension Conversion
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cinnabar8521
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buschris said:
You couldn't be more wrong.
cinnabar8521
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bignorm said:
No, suspension is test base suspended in water, looks very cloudy, and must be shaken prior to use, the test base is not at all desolved, suspension is never clear. You can convert test base in oil which would be fully desolved, but that would not be suspension.
bignorm oops, sorry about that. If you want it a true suspension in water(don't understand why) then you'll have to get innovative. I hear alot of people have a difficult time with the crystals even in a 22g pin. Here's one formula you can try but I've never used it any other way besides the oil.
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100mg\ml 100 ml
1) 10grams of Test no ester
2) 10ml BA
3) 10ml BB
4) 70ml peg
Measure the powder out to 10.0 grams pour in a beaker or vial, which ever you choose. Mix BA,BB and peg with the powder. Then you heat the solution until all the powder is dissolved. Then you filter it in a sterile vial and let cool. I have filtered when hot and cool and it flows easy while it is warm than cool. After it cools down you are ready ti inj. a painless Test suspension.
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Yes, you can get TNE from Synovex, but all that is worthless now as powders have become cheap and the norm. Just got my test p. and deca converted and it is wonderful! 2cc of TP and 1cc deca 3 times a week is doing well. IMHO prop is as good as suspension and is fairly pain-free.
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100mg\ml 100 ml
1) 10grams of Test no ester
2) 10ml BA
3) 10ml BB
4) 70ml peg
Measure the powder out to 10.0 grams pour in a beaker or vial, which ever you choose. Mix BA,BB and peg with the powder. Then you heat the solution until all the powder is dissolved. Then you filter it in a sterile vial and let cool. I have filtered when hot and cool and it flows easy while it is warm than cool. After it cools down you are ready ti inj. a painless Test suspension.
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Yes, you can get TNE from Synovex, but all that is worthless now as powders have become cheap and the norm. Just got my test p. and deca converted and it is wonderful! 2cc of TP and 1cc deca 3 times a week is doing well. IMHO prop is as good as suspension and is fairly pain-free.
brew
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ok, enlighten me about the ester romving step, because all the synovexc conversions I know yeild propinate. Also the above recipe is not a true suspension, still using an oil like carrier (peg) the only way to get the quick spike that people seek from susp is to use BW as the carrier.
yes exactly, but the test gets into your system quicker with peg versus an oil carrier.
Personally, I've had zero problems using the oil method, although I believe Test Prop acts similar to suspension in terms of half life. Remember, the test crystals remain in the muscle tissue up to 3 days before becoming utilized, hence the pain. Trust me, I'd rather shoot Prop than straight test.
As for the ester removing step, first all esters are removed from both test p. and estr. and then another chem makes the estr. water soluble, hence you are left with test base. One can just purchase those thwo chems from Animal, although I'm sure they are very common chems if one only knew what they were lol
Been using those kits for Synovex and Component TH for years, I'm surprised more people don't talk about tren nowadays, it's a wonderful hormone.
That in itself raises IGF levels in your animal and causes fat loss more than any other IMO.
Personally, I've had zero problems using the oil method, although I believe Test Prop acts similar to suspension in terms of half life. Remember, the test crystals remain in the muscle tissue up to 3 days before becoming utilized, hence the pain. Trust me, I'd rather shoot Prop than straight test.
As for the ester removing step, first all esters are removed from both test p. and estr. and then another chem makes the estr. water soluble, hence you are left with test base. One can just purchase those thwo chems from Animal, although I'm sure they are very common chems if one only knew what they were lol
Been using those kits for Synovex and Component TH for years, I'm surprised more people don't talk about tren nowadays, it's a wonderful hormone.
That in itself raises IGF levels in your animal and causes fat loss more than any other IMO.
cinnabar8521
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buschris said:
I understand Bro, but that is not suspension, not even close.
cinnabar8521
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Be carefull with peg, it's pretty harsh on alot of people, myself and many others get very hard golf ball size lumps at the injection site, that take between 6-12 minths to desolve, and just so you know peg is water based that's why it obsorbs faster then oil.
buschris said:
what is the purpose of you wanting to use suspension? From what I hear, mostly powerlifters use it. If you want more test in your system, use more test. Anything less than 750mg per week is a waste anyway. I sure hope you're not planning on using that much suspension, it'll damn near cripple you!
skully1320
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Test base is test base no matter what vehicle you use (water or oil). It is not estered so the release is the same. The oil will take longer to disipate from the site though. Just treat it like synthol lol.....
brew
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yes sir you are correct it is NAOH. Since this thread started I decided to do some homework since its been years since I used pellets. This has got the wheels in my head turning makes me curious as to what chem you would use in a fina conversion to cleave the acetate ester. I know a while back there was a recipe floating around 'white fina' I think is what it was called, where your finished product was dryed and yeilded crystalized tren. Anyone familiar with this as to wether that was tren ace or tren base?
