yeah i know we never had any posts on this here before! So good info for sure
So after looking through the entire Lab Forum I did not see any info on the Raw Powder Grades that most are probably getting. This is important information as well as some legal info that you should know.
To begin there are three grades when it comes to raw powders (hormone, HGH, Peptides) they are:
SG-can be 98% or below purity standards, may also contain other compound chemicals or not have completed the chemical process but shown 3/4 of the active ingredients it claims to posses. EX-isopropyl 91% alcohol is considered SG grade, because it conians 91% alcohol and 9% other chemicals.
RG-Most common and known as Medicine grade usually does not exceed 98% purity.
HG-Human Grade or pharma grade and the most expensive, also 99%- 100% pure and comes with certificate of purity.
Most sources only carry two grades since the HG grade is difficult to obtain and usually higher in cost-If its like the stuff I worked with then it comes with a certificate of purity and any source would be more than happy to let you see that, if its HG. It is also more expensive and will almost certainly not be on a promotion. EX 10 Grams HG grade Var usually runs 316$ That's cost from manufacturer.
Most common are SG, RG these will be mainly pure but may not have fully completed the chemical process so they are around 98% pure and less.
They are the most commonly produced and can be made in a simple science lab.
With this being said it would be wise to know what you may be getting and just because powder is cheaper it doesn't mean the tools to get your finished product (including your time) will be cost effective. If you know your powder is legit or mostly pure its well worth the endeavor since you know exactly what's in it, but this is something to keep in mind when purchasing raw powders.
NOTE: I also want to mention that possession of powders can be more serious than say 5 vials of a completed substance. This is due that powders can be easily broken down and distributed or turned to many products and assumed an intention to distribute. You should keep this in mind when dealing with powders as it could mean more serious consequences.
Great info!! Nice to have so many experienced guys willing to help and share info!
When its all said and done unfortunately a person is going to use whatever they can get because this is the world we live in and the laws and all the bs is not making shit any easier to obtain. Just my opinion. But yes authentication would be great in a perfect world
Yeah, its hard to even tell if you got the real deal until you use it. Honestly most sources use a source who uses a source, where do you think that leaves you...guessing. Honestly there was a batch that was tested that was supposed to be ********** and it was estradiol powder..definitely don't want that in my system especially at 400mg/ml lol
also what i understood as well tht the last step of the chemical process in manufacturing the raws ,,(WHICH IS CALLED ESTERIFICATION) is skipped in order to save time and money production cost,,, leading to having ur raws with acidic compounds in it.. but not all manufactures do this, when searching for a supplier you need to ask them this ..
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER !!! ... THE 67 ...
Example, how many buy premium gas when regular unleaded does the same thing it just gunks the pistons faster with carbon, but why pay more for premium. This is how they think so premium is costly and usually only made enough for med grade.
this is very true POWDERGUY... and i love bio-tech gear.. thts all i ever used when i didnt brew... lol : awesome stuff there.. and your right.. its all about producing quantity with them over and at a .ow price for bigger profit margines.. there and not really about quality which is a bummer.. but however i do believe tht there are legitimate suppliers tht send out good raws.... i deal with a few of them and they have always sent me good compounds.. but this has been an issue with the hgh tht is made over there and why its getting so cheap to buy becasue of the skipping steps and corners with a non-sterile enviro.,/
Right presser! Were not all big pimpin though brotha..
THE67- most HGH has a short shelf life compared to other available items. It has to be sold/used rather quickly. There are companies that have their own patent on how to produce HGH and there are a few different ways to produce HGH. Cost depends on how long its been since produced, who made it and light exposure.
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I'm not sure, actually was kinda asking if anyone has seen it like that.I just happened to have some prop too and it looks similar. I'll brew and try it when I run tren again.
it's a new source and I'm a little skeptical.
I'll be able to tell pretty quick of its crap.
Great thread going here.
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Also if your test E doesn't dissolve fully in the solvent without swirling then the acid is definitely the problem. You can also do a room temp melt test to see if there is a separation of the oil and a liquid. Acid is heavy and will separate to the bottom. I have never had an issue with this, I have however watched the process and there is a ton of chems that need to be flushed away before the process is complete
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Sorry for bumping yet another old thread but can we discuss sources on here?
Were do i find a Pharma Grade powder supplier?
Ive used the same powder supplier for over 8years and never had one complaint.
But id like to use this pharma grade powder you talk about to see if its any different from what im getting.
Also the only company i know that produces steroid APIs for large pharma companies is based in Italy.
Check them out "steroid.it"
ASSASSIN, Sourcing isn't allowed and stealing this thread wont win you any points either., especially on your 9th post.
You cannot just find a source doing Pharma Grade, those are highly controlled and only a handful of places do non commercial sales.
However if you have specific questions about grades you can Pm or post it here.
Please read the rules and welcome to MC.
Sorry powderguy. I should have read the rules and i sincerly apologize for the thread jack.
Ive sent you a PM.