cytis01
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Been a while since I posted – a while back I requested some comparative information between ECA/Clen/Aqua Burn/and DNP. I have been sitting on a bottle of APEX research DNP from Apollo for quite a while – continued to do as much research on the substance as I could. A lot of good information to be found by forum poster Conciliator which Im sure many of you have stumbled upon if researching DNP. Many times he links his opinions of his research to medical journal articles/case reports etc to back-up his claims which is refreshing as many just make blanket statements about the substance based on rumor. Also the book ‘illegally thin’ has quite a bit of information to contribute.
Having bulked up a bit over the winter I was up to ~223lbs after an Anavar Turanabol cycle which was great. I put on a little bit of fat over the term as I was eating quite a bit. Cycle ended around Christmas. I like to plan my bulk cycles around the holidays which helps for food volume but isn’t always the cleanest . Unfortunately/fortunately in January work picked up and I was working some very late hours. Bad part was I wasn’t able to get to the gym reliably and I didn’t get out of my bulking diet and ate quite dirty. Continued to put on another 7lbs of bad weight. As work subsided I kicked up the cardio and cleaned house on the diet. Got myself back down to 218lbs and stalled out there. Ive found over the last few years as I bulk then cut I end up keeping a lot of the weight in my face even though my body is getting leaner. Pisses me off to no end. Roughly a week ago I decided to take the ‘plunge’ and try this DNP out.
My apologies this is a post-hoc log for the first week but I thought the information could still valuable to those interested in another DNP log. As mentioned it is APEX research DNP(100mgs/cap) with EGCG and Caffeine. Decided to stick with low end dosages. 200mgs dosed 100mgs every 12 hours. Also sticking with my low calorie diet I had established in the weeks prior. I know some say ‘works better when you eat more carbs’ but that doesn’t make sense to me. You feel sides more but calories are calories and ATP is ATP. It works by making ATP less efficient not by stuffing my face with additional calories/carbs and I am not looking for extra sides.
‘Diet’ consisted of
Breakfast
wheat noodles w/small chicken breast, 12oz milk, PBJ open face, protein shake – all breakfasts pretty similar
lunch – cottage cheese
dinner – Tilapia or Chicken breast on brown rice, 12oz milk, PBJ open face, protein shake – all dinner pretty similar
total calories
additional supplements morning and night; multi, fish oil, Vit E, Vit C, St Johns Wort, baby asprin.
Workouts for now are confined to 40 minutes in office park basement – very simple setup. EOD rotation of chest/tri and back/bi just to keep them engaged and breakup my work day.
Check/Tri Day – 4 sets/12 perfect and concentrated reps of Dumbbell Fly, cross bench tri pullover, dips. Also, core workouts with pushups, crunches reverse crunches, weighted side bends.
Day1 (Weds) – weighed in at 218lbs the night prior. dosed 100mgs at 10am at work. Felt a little funny in about 1hr but most likely just paranoid. Ive not had that much trepidation taking anything since the first time I tried shrooms in high school haha. A little warm as the day went on but nothing out of the ordinary. Worked out in the gym at office park basement; strength fine – definitely warmer though. I take Benadryl immediately before dinner to help with sleep anyway so continued to do so. Weighed in at 218.5lbs. Just before hitting the hay I dosed second cap of 100mgs. Slept fine but woke up feeling like I had a few beers before bed.
Day2 (Thurs) – dosed 100mgs at 10am at work. Warmth started kicking in faster – since of course the stuff builds in your system, though still nothing crazy. Slight fuzzy pressure in my head; took a Tylenol and was fine. Worked out and noticed I was breathing a little more labored but energy was fine. Assume body wanted more air to make more ATP since it is starting to get pretty inefficient. Dinner, weigh in, 219lbs – going the wrong way but figured it was water weight Ive heard about. Body holding more in the skin; forgot to take my benedryl so took it with the DNP and couldn’t fall asleep for a while. Face was flush. Woke up feeling worse than the morning before; not bad once I was up but definitely drifting toward the hangover feeling more. Also, noticed a lot of lines from my sheets on my skin and face – definitely holding a lot of water in my skin now.
Day3 (Fri) – dosed 100mgs at 10am, worked out again same thing strength down a little on last reps of sets breathing a little harder and much warmer. Jumped in a meeting when I got done and was sweating my ass off. Face extremely warm. Felt a little uneasy/queasy too. At home wife asked what was wrong as I was bright red – I said I was just feeling really warm and said I went tanning for the first time in a while. That got her off my case haha. Turned off the lights and watched a movie; I couldn’t have her curled up on me though I was getting too hot. Started to wonder if I wanted to keep going even at this low dose. Weighed in at 218lbs. took my night dose and went to bed. *couple zits on me – one on my leg, another on my neck. I never get them so that was a side worth noting. From the profuse sweating?
Day4 (Sat) – dosed my 10am 100mgs. full day of yard work. Digging out an old garden bed to make new rose garden for wife. Was super hot, heart going quite a bit and felt really weak. Hosed myself down to get cooler, was getting crabby so thought my glucose might be low. Downed a double stack strawberry jelly sandwich and felt a lot better. Worked through the day, still hot, still a little weak but was better than that morning. Again wondering if I wanted to keep going with no real ‘results’. That night plugged in another movie and chilled out. Took my night dose and weighed in at 217.5. couple of small blister like things on my arms. Very small – like a zit but w/ water – not like sunburn blisters though. Writing it off to some plant I shouldn’t have touched or something else.
Day5 (Sun) another yard work day. Frustrated at the lack of results for the fact I was feeling like crap and taking DNP!!! Took my morning dose after breakfast and got started on the yard work digging dirt, planting vegetable garden, new annuals in beds that kind of crap. Not as intense work as the day prior and felt a lot better. Also preempted that jelly sandwich and avoided a bottom out feeling which was good. heat wasn’t as bad this day which was nice; figured ‘great – now Im getting tolerant to it and will have to up the dose’ which I didn’t want to do. Was tired at end of day and didn’t even weigh in as I figured I would end this experiment Monday.
Day6 (Mon) – decided not to take my morning dose and that I was going to be done with it. Worked out as usual in basement of office building. Weighed in at 214! WTF! Looked at myself in the mirror and noticed my face was seemingly thinner too. Furthermore it wasn’t as hot as it had been all week prior. Did some pinch tests around the mid section and my ‘fat areas’ were flatter feeling. Maybe I shouldn’t give up yet! Got home and popped another dose; granted 6 hours later than I usually did. Felt fine…. Not really any of the crappy sides I felt before. Decided to pop my 10pm dose at regular time.
Day 7 (Tues) – felt pretty good all day Monday and had no trouble sleeping anymore so I decided to mimic the dosing from Monday. I also decided to add some ECA pre workout. Worked out at noon, felt warm but had a ton more energy. End of day popped my ‘morning dose’ and headed home. Ate dinner as usual, took night dose and weighed in at 212.5. good stuff. No more red face either…. Did I punch through ‘the wall’? face looking leaner too.
Day 8 (Weds) – Same thing, same result. Felt great working out. Last reps seemed harder but ok. Muscles looking flatter but overall I am looking a lot better after my workouts. Took my day dose at 4pm and night dose at 10pm. Weighed in at 211lbs. I think my body was starting to shed some of that water I was holding in my skin as I was dropping weight fast and starting to see great results and feeling less bloated and less sides. Put together a desk for my wife though and sweated like it was 90 degrees in the house. Have switched to drinking ice water to help keep me cool.
Day 9 (Thurs) – Feeling really good now; like I could keep this up all month…. Same routine – had to pick up a baby crib in the truck; hauled it in and got undressed. Wife followed me into the bedroom and mentioned I was looking really lean and my face/neck was a lot skinnier! I had a ton of energy too. almost bouncing off the walls. Stepped on the scale….210.5! craziness. not planning on upping dose at all and want to keep this going.
Day 10 (Fri) – this is today. Feel great today. will hit the gym around 2pm. Planning on running this out until next Wednesday to make it a 2 week cycle. Ill try to update this tomorrow and again on Monday..... wish I would have taken pics on the before.
Having bulked up a bit over the winter I was up to ~223lbs after an Anavar Turanabol cycle which was great. I put on a little bit of fat over the term as I was eating quite a bit. Cycle ended around Christmas. I like to plan my bulk cycles around the holidays which helps for food volume but isn’t always the cleanest . Unfortunately/fortunately in January work picked up and I was working some very late hours. Bad part was I wasn’t able to get to the gym reliably and I didn’t get out of my bulking diet and ate quite dirty. Continued to put on another 7lbs of bad weight. As work subsided I kicked up the cardio and cleaned house on the diet. Got myself back down to 218lbs and stalled out there. Ive found over the last few years as I bulk then cut I end up keeping a lot of the weight in my face even though my body is getting leaner. Pisses me off to no end. Roughly a week ago I decided to take the ‘plunge’ and try this DNP out.
My apologies this is a post-hoc log for the first week but I thought the information could still valuable to those interested in another DNP log. As mentioned it is APEX research DNP(100mgs/cap) with EGCG and Caffeine. Decided to stick with low end dosages. 200mgs dosed 100mgs every 12 hours. Also sticking with my low calorie diet I had established in the weeks prior. I know some say ‘works better when you eat more carbs’ but that doesn’t make sense to me. You feel sides more but calories are calories and ATP is ATP. It works by making ATP less efficient not by stuffing my face with additional calories/carbs and I am not looking for extra sides.
‘Diet’ consisted of
Breakfast
wheat noodles w/small chicken breast, 12oz milk, PBJ open face, protein shake – all breakfasts pretty similar
lunch – cottage cheese
dinner – Tilapia or Chicken breast on brown rice, 12oz milk, PBJ open face, protein shake – all dinner pretty similar
total calories
additional supplements morning and night; multi, fish oil, Vit E, Vit C, St Johns Wort, baby asprin.
Workouts for now are confined to 40 minutes in office park basement – very simple setup. EOD rotation of chest/tri and back/bi just to keep them engaged and breakup my work day.
Check/Tri Day – 4 sets/12 perfect and concentrated reps of Dumbbell Fly, cross bench tri pullover, dips. Also, core workouts with pushups, crunches reverse crunches, weighted side bends.
Day1 (Weds) – weighed in at 218lbs the night prior. dosed 100mgs at 10am at work. Felt a little funny in about 1hr but most likely just paranoid. Ive not had that much trepidation taking anything since the first time I tried shrooms in high school haha. A little warm as the day went on but nothing out of the ordinary. Worked out in the gym at office park basement; strength fine – definitely warmer though. I take Benadryl immediately before dinner to help with sleep anyway so continued to do so. Weighed in at 218.5lbs. Just before hitting the hay I dosed second cap of 100mgs. Slept fine but woke up feeling like I had a few beers before bed.
Day2 (Thurs) – dosed 100mgs at 10am at work. Warmth started kicking in faster – since of course the stuff builds in your system, though still nothing crazy. Slight fuzzy pressure in my head; took a Tylenol and was fine. Worked out and noticed I was breathing a little more labored but energy was fine. Assume body wanted more air to make more ATP since it is starting to get pretty inefficient. Dinner, weigh in, 219lbs – going the wrong way but figured it was water weight Ive heard about. Body holding more in the skin; forgot to take my benedryl so took it with the DNP and couldn’t fall asleep for a while. Face was flush. Woke up feeling worse than the morning before; not bad once I was up but definitely drifting toward the hangover feeling more. Also, noticed a lot of lines from my sheets on my skin and face – definitely holding a lot of water in my skin now.
Day3 (Fri) – dosed 100mgs at 10am, worked out again same thing strength down a little on last reps of sets breathing a little harder and much warmer. Jumped in a meeting when I got done and was sweating my ass off. Face extremely warm. Felt a little uneasy/queasy too. At home wife asked what was wrong as I was bright red – I said I was just feeling really warm and said I went tanning for the first time in a while. That got her off my case haha. Turned off the lights and watched a movie; I couldn’t have her curled up on me though I was getting too hot. Started to wonder if I wanted to keep going even at this low dose. Weighed in at 218lbs. took my night dose and went to bed. *couple zits on me – one on my leg, another on my neck. I never get them so that was a side worth noting. From the profuse sweating?
Day4 (Sat) – dosed my 10am 100mgs. full day of yard work. Digging out an old garden bed to make new rose garden for wife. Was super hot, heart going quite a bit and felt really weak. Hosed myself down to get cooler, was getting crabby so thought my glucose might be low. Downed a double stack strawberry jelly sandwich and felt a lot better. Worked through the day, still hot, still a little weak but was better than that morning. Again wondering if I wanted to keep going with no real ‘results’. That night plugged in another movie and chilled out. Took my night dose and weighed in at 217.5. couple of small blister like things on my arms. Very small – like a zit but w/ water – not like sunburn blisters though. Writing it off to some plant I shouldn’t have touched or something else.
Day5 (Sun) another yard work day. Frustrated at the lack of results for the fact I was feeling like crap and taking DNP!!! Took my morning dose after breakfast and got started on the yard work digging dirt, planting vegetable garden, new annuals in beds that kind of crap. Not as intense work as the day prior and felt a lot better. Also preempted that jelly sandwich and avoided a bottom out feeling which was good. heat wasn’t as bad this day which was nice; figured ‘great – now Im getting tolerant to it and will have to up the dose’ which I didn’t want to do. Was tired at end of day and didn’t even weigh in as I figured I would end this experiment Monday.
Day6 (Mon) – decided not to take my morning dose and that I was going to be done with it. Worked out as usual in basement of office building. Weighed in at 214! WTF! Looked at myself in the mirror and noticed my face was seemingly thinner too. Furthermore it wasn’t as hot as it had been all week prior. Did some pinch tests around the mid section and my ‘fat areas’ were flatter feeling. Maybe I shouldn’t give up yet! Got home and popped another dose; granted 6 hours later than I usually did. Felt fine…. Not really any of the crappy sides I felt before. Decided to pop my 10pm dose at regular time.
Day 7 (Tues) – felt pretty good all day Monday and had no trouble sleeping anymore so I decided to mimic the dosing from Monday. I also decided to add some ECA pre workout. Worked out at noon, felt warm but had a ton more energy. End of day popped my ‘morning dose’ and headed home. Ate dinner as usual, took night dose and weighed in at 212.5. good stuff. No more red face either…. Did I punch through ‘the wall’? face looking leaner too.
Day 8 (Weds) – Same thing, same result. Felt great working out. Last reps seemed harder but ok. Muscles looking flatter but overall I am looking a lot better after my workouts. Took my day dose at 4pm and night dose at 10pm. Weighed in at 211lbs. I think my body was starting to shed some of that water I was holding in my skin as I was dropping weight fast and starting to see great results and feeling less bloated and less sides. Put together a desk for my wife though and sweated like it was 90 degrees in the house. Have switched to drinking ice water to help keep me cool.
Day 9 (Thurs) – Feeling really good now; like I could keep this up all month…. Same routine – had to pick up a baby crib in the truck; hauled it in and got undressed. Wife followed me into the bedroom and mentioned I was looking really lean and my face/neck was a lot skinnier! I had a ton of energy too. almost bouncing off the walls. Stepped on the scale….210.5! craziness. not planning on upping dose at all and want to keep this going.
Day 10 (Fri) – this is today. Feel great today. will hit the gym around 2pm. Planning on running this out until next Wednesday to make it a 2 week cycle. Ill try to update this tomorrow and again on Monday..... wish I would have taken pics on the before.
