Tren, causing these wierd issues?

[Pumping Iron]

I'm currently doing a prop/tren cycle (first time using tren) today was my 3rd inj for the week, just started. Doing right now 100/50 going to bump to 100/100 EOD.

I am wondering if the weird feelings I'm getting after inj are from the tren? I notice a tightness in the muscle, tingling in my arms, pressure around my lower neck/head area and an almost hypo type feeling with my chest area feeling really heavy, almost like someone is standing on me.. I know the breathing side effect is normal with tren, which i have but really minor so I'm just wondering about this other stuff. Also, at this point is increasing the dose is even necessary? I'm guessing after the first 1 1/2 weeks or so these sides will go away once I get used to it but am not sure with tren. I would ultimately like to be doing 100mg EOD.

Thanks!

 

[Crazymank]

whats your stats again? Im 250 a dose of 100/100 ed works well with me- but not for more than 10 weeks.

 

[Pumping Iron]

I'm 28, 5'10 205 right now with about 8.5% bf ... you don't get any of these feelings when you do it? It's like an instant rush, and then I feel the tingles,light headed,muscle aches for about 20 or so minutes then it gets better but shit is scary. I've done prop before and never had these feelings. I've been using for about 6 or 7 years but not a lot... Mostly 1 cycle a year... This time it's my 2nd cycle in about 7 months. I was on a Cyp/Eq for about 12 weeks, off for 2 months and back on this week with the prop/tren then PCT with Clomid/IGF-1..

 

[Crazymank]

you need to aspirate. But yes, i get that. I also get that way with test base. You should try to make sure you have some carbs in you before and after your injections. that should help.

 

[NAIR]

you know I wonder why anyone chooses to do ace instead enan. I used enan straight for 5 months and though I had thee worst aggression and acne known to man, everything ran really smoothly. Why do so many folks opt for the ace with all the nasty sides?

 

[Crazymank]

some people dont react well to tren e. for some reason. I think its part that, and if im using prop im going to throw tren ace in there to cut it.

 

[Pumping Iron]

you need to aspirate. But yes, i get that. I also get that way with test base. You should try to make sure you have some carbs in you before and after your injections. that should help.

I always aspirate, number 1 on my list :satan: I've had no issue with Tren Cough or really that much trouble with the breathing sides, it's just this shit which is a scary feeling I'm not going to lie.. Glad to see you have the same thing, at least I know it's not just me.

Does it slow down a bit for you as you get used to it, or always happen?

I drank a Gatorade afterwards which seemed to help pretty well.

 

[Stickler*]

you know I wonder why anyone chooses to do ace instead enan. I used enan straight for 5 months and though I had thee worst aggression and acne known to man, everything ran really smoothly. Why do so many folks opt for the ace with all the nasty sides?

to me the... rush and pump on ace 4 days in.. is worth it... period... the EOD pump or ED pump on tren ace... is awesome.. and who cares about being a pin cushion.. as long as you use 25g pins and alternate.. it's no big deal.. the sides come and go... and if you get em bad.. they don't last for weeks like they would on enth...

NOT TO HIJACK... but watch your BP.. sounds like the tingles, chest, and head/neck pain.. could be a rush on high BP... get iti checked and start monitoring... if this is your first tren 'project' .. then watch yourself closely.. you might need to lengthen the time of your shots.. ... regardless.. some people just ARENT meant to do certain t hings...

 

[saudades]

You do sound like you are getting the breathing side effect from tren. BP as others have said, may be higher and contributing to your symptoms. I don't know that you need to go to 100 on the tren, the usual is 50 to 75 of the tren ace even at your size. I never really got a rush when I used tren ace (or ethanate for that matter). The only symptoms that sound like what you describe is from getting a bit into the bloodstream even though you didn't cough. Tren is really strong so even if you get it near a vein, you can get the tren cough, etc. I got similar effects with just test cypionate and getting close to a vein. You just have to make sure you aspirate and stay away from veins as much as humanly possible.

 

[Pumping Iron]

Thanks guys for the advice.. I actually shot the ass today and that seemed to give me these sides the worse so far.. Shoulders I haven't noticed it as much. Now that you mention it Saud, as I was aspirating i did get that pinch feel like I may have scrapped a vein from the pin moving around so maybe that is why i got it so bad today, makes sense. Sometimes its hard to get around to my ass without my obliques cramping up hahaha

EDIT: You guys have any tips or take anything to counteract this? I do believe it is high BP.. I was fine about 20 minutes aftewards and all now, but now I got this weird ass feeling again. Heart is heavy, warm, head is heavy etc.. feels like high BP, I should get a monitor..

 

[Pumping Iron]

well i got a bp monitor and the first one came out as 142/101 -------------------- I was like holy shit second one came out 130/79 and 3rd was 135/87 and 4th was 129/91 so I guess I can say the first one was a fluke. Little bit high but not alarming.