Deca or Primo?

[LeatherHead]

I'm on a test only regimen right now, and after reading Shaptown's deal about test only cycles harming tendons and such, I want to add something more. Plus I'm getting ready to try to put on some more muscle mass, starting in about a month.

So my question is this, for those who have used both, or either, what would you suggest? I have used deca in the past, and didn't have a problem with it, other than deca dick... it still worked, but took a little longer to get fired up.

I'm currently on ~500mg of sus/wk.

Thanks for you input.

 

[big in vegas]

I don't like deca dick, but it's always helped me gain size, I've never personally used primo, but want to in my next bulking cycle for sure

 

[Shaptown]

Please do realize that it is ENTIRELY dosage dependent bro. I don't want people getting the impression that any dose of test is going to be hurtful.

Well, what are your goals bro? I love both of those compounds. Deca gives me HUGE strength, I feel great, lots of water, etc. However, the gains are not the easiest to keep in the end.

With primo, I feel great as well, but I find that the gains are MUCH more maintainable, in fact I lose almost no weight and keep ALL my strength. I like the fact that I tend not to really bloat on it as well. This is in fact of course with the exact same diet as with a cycle above.

I don't know your cycling history, but one of my favorite cycles is Test, Tren, Primo, Dbol. It is absolutely INSANE. I sometimes substitute Anavar in there for Dbol, but I can do so because I don't lose my hair. 2 DHT derivatives in a cycle is recipe for disaster for ANYONE that is even slightly prone at the least to MPB.

Let me know what you think bro!

Kind Regards~

 

[Chris250]

deca into any cycle with test is a good addition...

 

[LeatherHead]

Thanks guys. My goal is going to be to add more quality weight, gain strength, and keep it at the end, when I start to cut it up and lean it down to hopefully around 8-9%. I'm planning on upping the test, but still staying under 1000/wk. I don't like orals, just because from what I've read, they are more harsh on the organs, and only having 1 kidney, I don't need to beat it up anymore than I do. As far as my cycle history, I've done a cycle of GH, one of test/deca, and currently just on test. So as you can see, I don't have a ton of experience, which is why I'm coming to my bro's on MC. I know that you guys have a ton of experience, and you all are up front and honest.

 

[MrPerfect]

i think if your diet is tight and you handle deca well id use it... the gains are usually qwuick and good when on a lean diet, and as long as your test is high enough "deca dick" shouldnt be an issue

i used to not like it, but thats when i ran it high!! my last run at it i decided to just do it for a week week prior to my precontest cycle for some quick gains to build off of and let me tell you at a low dose of 500 a week i loved it!!

 

[triathloncoach]

Deca Dick

Add pramixole and no more prolactin induced deca-dick from deca.

 

[h8tr3d]

i ve never tried deca, but EQ is always an option too, and it increases collagen synthesis at a higher percentage rate than deca

 

[LeatherHead]

and as long as your test is high enough "deca dick" shouldnt be an issue

What would you say the ratio of deca to test should be? I was doing 1 to 1 on that cycle.

 

[Shaptown]

What would you say the ratio of deca to test should be? I was doing 1 to 1 on that cycle.

I don't think that is enough personally bro. Let's put it this way: I am not really prone to prolactin induced gyno, but I am still running 1g of Test E, 500mg Tren E, 400mg Deca, and then 1mg Prami ED, and then also 1mg Cabergoline every Monday.

For your case, I think you should run around 400mg Deca. I believe this dose to be enough; I don't think it is necessary to run 500mg as the benefits from 400 are not much higher, and I see significantly more difficulty in controlling sides at 500. If you run Deca at 400mg per week, I would run test at 600mg/week as a MINIMUM. I would honestly recommend 750mg Test per week, but at that dose, I doubt you would even need to use dopamine agonist ancillaries to prevent the prolactin buildup. This is just my belief, and even so, I would still have the proper preventative measures on hand (Letro, Bromo, Cabergoline, Prami, etc).

Prolactin induced gyno is just something I do not fuck around with.

 

[LeatherHead]

Thanks bro, I appreciate the info. I plan on running about those amounts, so I will look into getting some prami, as suggested.

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[The Dude]

You know I love my test and deca. I've never done primo that I can recall, but if I did it was probably too low of a dose. I don't get deca dick or any gyno issues period. All through college I did nothing but a low dose of 300mg of deca. I find it makes gains from any cycle its included in much easier to maintain when I go back down to HRT, but I should emphasize that I use HRT so I don't count on my body to produce test. I've read that deca really does a number on the HPTA so if you choose to run it and get completely off at some point you should include scheduled doses of HCG in the cycle.

 

[LeatherHead]

You know I love my test and deca. I've never done primo that I can recall, but if I did it was probably too low of a dose. I don't get deca dick or any gyno issues period. All through college I did nothing but a low dose of 300mg of deca. I find it makes gains from any cycle its included in much easier to maintain when I go back down to HRT, but I should emphasize that I use HRT so I don't count on my body to produce test. I've read that deca really does a number on the HPTA so if you choose to run it and get completely off at some point you should include scheduled doses of HCG in the cycle.

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