I'm almost wondering if I got a bad batch (I didn't buy from PN) because I let two other friends try my bottle after I hated it and they both got the flu like symptoms, couldn't sleep, depression ect. Like no joke that was the worst I have ever felt.Really damn, I felt great and gained some lean hard muscle
I'm almost wondering if I got a bad batch (I didn't buy from PN) because I let two other friends try my bottle after I hated it and they both got the flu like symptoms, couldn't sleep, depression ect. Like no joke that was the worst I have ever felt.
There have been a LOT of companies which did not produce pure SD. Many of the adulterated SD products made guys feel horrible, as they conatined different isomers of the drug, which should not have bene included and which caused bad side effects. I used a couple brands like this and felt absolutely horrible...had to stop my cycle after just 7-10 days. I couldn't eat and was depressed. I never experienced ANY of these sides when using quality versions of the drug...and in using them, I made the best gains of my life over a short period of time.
Nothing has ever made me feel worse than M1T, though. I added 20 lbs in 3 weeks when using M1T...just crazy, but felt awful. I completed a single 20 day cycle and could make it 4 days into my 2nd cycle. I tried one more time after that and the same thing happened. Very potent stuff, but very toxic...and ridden with side effects.
Thanks for the reply. I actually used the IML stuff. The reason I think I may have had a bad batch is because everything else I have used from them was top notch. Perhaps the compound was just not for me. I get insane gains from havoc (epistane) at 60-70 mg ed which most people would consider a weak compound. Maybe I'm just sensitive to methylated compounds.
A small percentage of guys just respond poorly and seem to feel horrible, even when using 100% good quality stuff. If you feel horrible and can't eat, you're not going to make very good gains no matter how strong the steroid(s) is. In cases like this, you would be better off using something you feel great on and can eat like a horse. You will grow far more, even if it is a weaker steroid. Even though Epistane is methylated, it is not nearly as hard on the liver, which makes it much more agreeable with some guys.
Yea that's what I have found. 99% of people I have talked to love the super dmz 2.0 or methadrol extreme v2 - so I'm not bashing it at all. For me it just didn't work out.
Mike, as I mentioned in a previous post, I use epistane at a high dose (60-70mg ed). I have done that for 8 weeks before with no problem. Do you think that I would be taxing my body too much to push it to 10 weeks since epi is milder than some of its otc counterparts?
I know this is a very delayed reply...sorry. there isn't really much user bloodwork on Epi going beyond 6 weeks or so, so it is hard to say. Personally, at that dose I would stick with about 8 weeks...because 70 mg is a pretty high dose...and even though Epi is not as toxic and something like SD, it is still considered a strong steroid...much stronger than something like Var or Winstrol...and likely more toxic, as well.






