Help me get a cycle plan together.

[echo419]

after I get my blood levels down I'm going to ramp things back up to get ready for my next powerlifting meet in september.

here's what I'm thinking:

750mg test.
500mg tren
???mg anadrol(never tried this before. not sure how much to use).
I also have pleanty of EQ lying around but I was thinking I'd use that later this year. hopefully things go well at this meet and I hit all my goal numbers. after that I'm going full bore on getting my symetry back and trying my hand at bodybuilding. if I can have the level of success at that as I have so far at PL-ing I'll be pretty happy. plus a break from all these heavy low rep sets will be welcomed.

that's about as many things as I'm comfortable or willing to spend the $$$ on at one time. then afterwards(PCT) I've read some stuff about proviron being used with a low does test. in the past I have not responded well to anti-estrogens. could be coincidence, I don't know. since I've never had much for sides except acne if I go really high on the test I'm inclined to believe I'll be ok weening off the test over a few weeks and maybe some HCG.


thoughts?

 

[akn]

how long ur planning to run ? u looking for mass gain (bulk) or just lean gains ? what ai anti estrogen u used in past ?

 

[echo419]

how long ur planning to run ? u looking for mass gain (bulk) or just lean gains ? what ai anti estrogen u used in past ?

lean gains. strength but I'm sure some size will come with it. I compete at 220 and I've never had to or really tried to cut weight anymore than not eating the day of weigh ins. so if I can stay under 230 I think I'll be fine.

clomid, novadex and caber.

 

[akn]

ok well well well , so u dont use any kind of aromatase inhibitors while on cycle like arimidex or exemastane ?

add some masteron it stacks really well with trena for lean gains @ dose of 400 - 600 mg / week , plus it has its anti e benefits

if u are not too sensitive to estrogen related sides u can use ai and caber @ low dose , but u should must keep in hand if planning not to use at all

sample cycle : i did in past for like 12 weeks with great gains

200 mg test prop eod
100 mg tren ace eod
150 mg mast prop eod

added winny and var last 6 weeks to get more lean

hcg 250 iu x 2 week , i feel better running hcg during cycle

 

[Presser]

ok well well well , so u dont use any kind of aromatase inhibitors while on cycle like arimidex or exemastane ?

add some masteron it stacks really well with trena for lean gains @ dose of 400 - 600 mg / week , plus it has its anti e benefits

if u are not too sensitive to estrogen related sides u can use ai and caber @ low dose , but u should must keep in hand if planning not to use at all

sample cycle : i did in past for like 12 weeks with great gains

200 mg test prop eod
100 mg tren ace eod
150 mg mast prop eod

added winny and var last 6 weeks to get more lean

hcg 250 iu x 2 week , i feel better running hcg during cycle

that sounds like a great cycle! never used masteron though! but with winny , tren and prop, little igf and bam!

 

[echo419]

Is the prop that necessary? Besides pinning EOD that's a significant cost increase. Not a big deal. I just a cheap ass.

 

[HackTwat]

After running Prop for a min, I can say that there is a big difference in how I look on Prop as opposed to Enanthate. Just a harder, leaner look brother.
And, I personally love Proviron!!! Or Masteron either one.....

 

[The Dude]

After running Prop for a min, I can say that there is a big difference in how I look on Prop as opposed to Enanthate. Just a harder, leaner look brother.
And, I personally love Proviron!!! Or Masteron either one.....

I agree. I use Cyp, but you look much better and hold a lot less water on Prop. If I were to use Anavar again I'd use at least 70mg a day.

 

[glycomann]

Not to be the fly in the ointment here but I have a lot of experience in biomedicine and medical lab sciences. What is going on with your bloodwork as you said you need to get your levels down?

 

[eswol]

Jump your Tren higher, 700 mgs and maybe get Tren Enethate ( mine is 200 mgs per cc) size and strength will jump. Also add 600 Mastron and keep a log and watch your body comp change big time. Don't leave out MC IGF, that should just go without saying.

 

[echo419]

Not to be the fly in the ointment here but I have a lot of experience in biomedicine and medical lab sciences. What is going on with your bloodwork as you said you need to get your levels down?

HGB 18.3
Hemocrite 54.3

 

[guardianactual]

Lean all out dry mass add SD, M-sten or M1T instead of var or winny. They r mass giants but not (as) wet as drol. Otherwise var/winny r fine if dosed right. Var @ 70mg+ 6+ weeks personally say 8 weeks bc while I never used Var I have use compounds like it (Mechabol lit's ike Tbol) and 8 weeks was perfect for me. As for the cycle AKN's works & Austin Presser etc r right Test Prop is great I perfer short esters to long dispite cost and I'm not exactly Mr. Spender, I pinch pennies LMAO especially atm! Test P is I believe 84% test vs Test E's 70% & Cyp's 69% if that helps LMAO bc I look at everything to save $ for me knowing that helps alil.
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</br> 500mg Test E = 350mg Test after ester
</br> 417mg Test P = 350.28mg Test after ester
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</br> So say you run Test E 750mg 12 weeks that's 9000mg x 70% = 6300mg
</br> Test P same duration 750mg 12 weeks that's 9000mg x 84% = 7560mg
</br> Test E say is $40 for 2500mg U'd need 4 vials $160 10,000mg
</br> Test P is say $25 for 1000mg U'd need 9 vials 9,000mg $225
</br> $65 difference for 560mg extra test by volume (Test P).
</br> which is a more expensive purchase.
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</br> You could always buy both & stack them 500mg Test E & 300mg Test P that's how I did it.
</br> Sorry studying 4 a math final LMAO teacher said practice practice practice!

 

[echo419]

Wow. That was a week thought out and we'll written post. Thanks!

PS. What's SD?

 

[echo419]

What would y'all think about running test, EQ and mast until about 6-8 weeks out then dropping the EQ and adding tren? Only reason I ask is I have a pile of EQ just sitting here.

 

[akn]

eq @ 600 + / week would be good

 

[The Dude]

What would y'all think about running test, EQ and mast until about 6-8 weeks out then dropping the EQ and adding tren? Only reason I ask is I have a pile of EQ just sitting here.

Think that would work pretty well. Maybe a little Nolvabloat to keep you looking harder. I need to get some

 

[echo419]

I'm just prepping for a powerlifting meet. Not a bodybuilding show lol. I just don't want to put on to much weight

 

[guardianactual]

Wow. That was a week thought out and we'll written post. Thanks! PS. What's SD?

Thanks bro glad ya liked it. I was unsure if I was going too in depth. SD is Superdrol. I'm unsure if 6-8 week of EQ is enough...
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</br> Link here > http://www.musclechemistry.com/uplo...cycle-dosage-profile.html?highlight=Superdrol

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M1T or Alpha one it'll make u hella strong!

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M1T or Alpha one it'll make u hella strong!

 

[echo419]

so this this combo is going well. strength is up and my weight hasn't moved much. maybe 3-4 pounds max.

so I'm thinking this masteron might be good to inc into PCT. what does everyone thing of that?

 

[Presser]

so this this combo is going well. strength is up and my weight hasn't moved much. maybe 3-4 pounds max.

so I'm thinking this masteron might be good to inc into PCT. what does everyone thing of that?

i never took masteron, and haven't heard of many people including it in their pct protocol either. what is your PCT going to consist of?