Injection Question - Mixing oils (Test Cyp / Deca)

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So I am new to injecting but have done a substantial amount of homework so that I get it right and do things safely and sanitarily...

Anyway, I want to know the best way to combine the Test Cyp and the Deca in one syringe. They are both oils so combining them should not be an issue that I can foresee. That being said is there any issue with cross contamination drawing from the Test Cyp and Deca vials with the same drawing needle (assuming everything is kept clean)? I dont want to contaminate things if a bit of the Test Cyp gets into the Deca vial - is this an issue?

Part two... If I am drawing out 1ml, I know I need to add at least 1ml (or 1.5 mg possibly) of air to the vial in order to help with the vacuum process of getting the oil into the syringe. If I load the syringe with 1 gram of air and then put it into the vial and draw out 1mg of Test then how do I add air to the second vial if I plan to mix them? Do I start out with 2ml of air add 1 to the Test, draw out 1mg and then keep the syringe upside down and inject the second 1ml of air into the Deca vial and then draw out the 1ml of Deca, effectively leaving me with 2ml's of oil (1ml Test / 1ml Deca) inside the syringe? Is there a better way. I am trying to cut down on the number of injections and I dont think injecting 2ml of oil at one time is overboard by any means...

Is there a flaw in my logic here?
 
NakedGod and Saudades, thanks for the reply. I had not thought of adding air to both first before drawing up the oil. Good idea, I learned something new. Thank you!
 
My concern is contamination. If you stick a syringe in the deca then in to the test,there is deca on the needle which will contaminate the test with deca. Your best bet is to use 3 syringes. Pull out your dosage of deca from one syringe, get another syringe and get your dosage of test in that syringe.

Use a 3rd syringe, take out the stopper, and fill in this empty syringe with both syringes.

Another way is to use 3 needles, but 1 syringe. Put one needle in the deca, take out your dosage with 1 syringe, put a different needle in the test, and with the syringe in the deca pull out some test. But the problem is, if you get a bit too much you'll have to put it back in to the vial by pushing the syringe back in to the vial. This can also lead to contamination.
 
Use one to draw sterilize the top of each vial before u draw after u have two cc mixed in one take pin off and replace with a fresh pin that is not dull from drawing
 
Use one to draw sterilize the top of each vial before u draw after u have two cc mixed in one take pin off and replace with a fresh pin that is not dull from drawing

Yup I've always did it this way and never had an issue. I sterilize the tops then my injection site and pull from all swap pin and inject.
 
Personally, I draw the test first, then the deca. I just push air into the test and draw the test. Then I pull a little more air than I need into the syringe and push it into the deca. If a little test gets into my deca, who cares? Seriously, I am putting both into my leg at the same time anyway. I then draw the deca and turn the syringe over and over a few times to mix them. Then I pull in some air to clear the needle, replace the needle with a fresh one, push out the air until a single drop appears, and inject into my leg.

No need to over think it. Of course, sterilize everything first.
 
The only time you may have trouble is when you get towards the end of the bottles. Youll need to make sure you put air in both before drawing out, otherwise youll draw out on the first, but wont be able to put the air into the second to equalize the pressure on the depleted bottle. I like to rock the syringe back and forth before injecting to mix the compounds before the injection. Seems to cause less PIP, but that might just be a placebo effect.
 
I use a 20 ga pin to draw with. Then switch to 27 ga pin for the jab. If there is a little cross contamination between the different oils, it is so minimal it doesn't matter.
 
I use a 20 ga pin to draw with. Then switch to 27 ga pin for the jab. If there is a little cross contamination between the different oils, it is so minimal it doesn't matter.


I agree. I also draw with a larger needle (20 gauge) and inject with a 23 gauge. Sterilize everything first and never had a problem. Usually add air the first time or two but don't add air afterwards until the bottle gets towards the end.
 
My concern is contamination. If you stick a syringe in the deca then in to the test,there is deca on the needle which will contaminate the test with deca. Your best bet is to use 3 syringes. Pull out your dosage of deca from one syringe, get another syringe and get your dosage of test in that syringe.

Use a 3rd syringe, take out the stopper, and fill in this empty syringe with both syringes.

Another way is to use 3 needles, but 1 syringe. Put one needle in the deca, take out your dosage with 1 syringe, put a different needle in the test, and with the syringe in the deca pull out some test. But the problem is, if you get a bit too much you'll have to put it back in to the vial by pushing the syringe back in to the vial. This can also lead to contamination.


Not sure why you would be concerned with getting deca in your test or vice versa since you're already combining them in the syringe. If both vials are sterile and you follow correct procedure to disinfect, then you should be fine. Getting one drop of deca in your test will not hurt it, but if you feel the need to use different tips to draw each, that won't hurt either.
 
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