Why Use HCG If I'm On TRT For Life

[trtdoc]

Definitely, its a great compound. I will post an article on it soon describing all the benefits.

Dr. B

 

[chihuahua]

I never understood why someone would want to use hcg if they have no desire to have kids. So what if your nuts shrink. Small nuts make your member look bigger

 

[trtdoc]

haha, welll that is definitely true!

HCG helps protect the diacephalon and engages the natural production of testosterone (endogenous). It has many benefits and is becoming highly researched.

That comment made me lol

Dr. B

 

[Presser]

I never understood why someone would want to use hcg if they have no desire to have kids. So what if your nuts shrink. Small nuts make your member look bigger

if hcg usage with your TRT keeps your balls bigger, I am all for it! I once had that who cares about my ball size outlook and well, bigger balls for me is better.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

if hcg usage with your TRT keeps your balls bigger, I am all for it! I once had that who cares about my ball size outlook and well, bigger balls for me is better.

Hgh doing job for mine.
I thought about using one of those rubber band tie off things other day around them.
Lmso!!!
U know what I am taking about, I hope

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[drtbear1967]

What dose do you run hcg?

 

[trtdoc]

Ya its all about preventing testicular atrophy which can turn into some issues down the road.

Most men do very well at are able to keep testicular function patent at 250iu weekly. Some, very few require 500iu and higher weekly

Dr. B

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Ya its all about preventing testicular atrophy which can turn into some issues down the road.

Most men do very well at are able to keep testicular function patent at 250iu weekly. Some, very few require 500iu and higher weekly

Dr. B

Are these problems down the road, lack of DHEA, PREGENOLONE, AND 11hydroxy... u know???
If i am using hgh regular am I good.
I am on TRT my Dr never put me on hcg I have been on TRT with him for 5 years!

Is the hgh sufficient or should I ask him for hcg??

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[trtdoc]

HGH has too many negative side effects and is becoming highly scrutinized by DEA. It is now pretty much required to place pts on hcg if they are on TRT. Most old providers are not up to date on research and we see they do not utilize.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

HGH has too many negative side effects and is becoming highly scrutinized by DEA. It is now pretty much required to place pts on hcg if they are on TRT. Most old providers are not up to date on research and we see they do not utilize.

What i mean is I have hgh, and don't care about dea!!! They are smoking pot and selling pot in states cause people didn't care about dea!!! I don't use pot and wouldn't if legal in my state.

Sorry but dea, yes a Dr for license needs to care. I meant ask my Dr for HCG or is my hgh sufficient??

My balls are fine, I got a couple dogs fixed that are very old and healthy!!!
They are males but fixed no problems.
Lol!

I am honest and will say I only use TRT dose to go do bloods. I stayed on primo thru bloods and hgh. Dropped mast prop and test prop 7 days before but only 150wk for each of those!! Stayed on 300 wk Primo E, Trt cyp 100wk, proviron 50-75mg a day!!!

All my bloods were good as usual.
Only bad bloods I ever had were when total test was 47 before starting TRT.
Thought it was 147 but looked again other day.

I agree on some but disagree too.
Every guy I know trt who is turned lose with 200mg a week and hcg, and adex has had issues!!! Bp, water retention bloat, with crashed estro!! Lol!
Then they are put in thiadanzid's or whatever!!!
Before quitung trt they often come to me or experienced gear user instead of their Dr.
I tell them what I would do.
Drop TRT cyp to 50mg mon 50 mg Thurs.
Save hcg or make use of it in another way.
Stop adex or reduce to .5 @2× wk then reduce to less and only use when signs are present!!!
They then get ofc BP meds by family dr!!

I.feel that enough trt that aromatases should not be started to need an AI and hcg, I have saw cause bloat only Aromasin
Seems to control!




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[Muscle mechanic]

Fell asleep posting up. I can't edit it.

I have bloat from hcg use on trt that only Aromasin was able to control.

I also have noticed that hcg use on TRT can be complex and cause spikes in estro that causes complications.

From lots of people I have spoken with the ones that tolerate TRT at 150-200mg per wk with adex and HCG are the experience steroid users who shut themselves down!!!
Then got on TRT, but the still blast and cruise!!!

I don't meet or talk to many who just ended up with low test, got on TRT cause of natural reasons, these guys right here I have noticed don't do well with 150-200wk
TRT, with ADEX AND HCG!!

I feel and advice I give is let body adjust and take it's coarse.
Do it slow testosterone over a certain dose should aromatase, take slow let body adjust over 90 day period draw bloods then with stable levels of testosterone see where estro is at and if adex is even needed!!!

Next hcg with TRT!!!
Same as above leg body shutdown like it is supposed to do. Leave hcg out equation until 6 months bloods!!
Allow patient to experience one at a time know how they respond and what causes which symptom!!!
If HCG is all what it is supposed to do then at later stage it can be introduced!!!

Adex can be dangerous if it's over done, hcg can cause side effects consistently what estro high causes. BUT THESE side effects and bloating from HCG often an AI fails to control!!!

I believe it someone needs TRT then they should be given testosterone!!!
The other 2 adex and HCG those not given till necessary and conditions develope to take them.

As far as thinking we take this and this and this and we trick the body and if that causes high blood pressure then we take pill for that too!!!
I disagree with this approach!!!!

I am not trying to be controversial I am being honest alot of guys Message and ask for advice from many boards!!!
Maybe me speaking up can help more guys!!!

Thanks DR. For being here and sharing your knowledge from a medical standpoint!!![emoji106][emoji123][emoji109]

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[Rot-Iron66]

Ive read that HCG destroys lipid levels. Doc and MM, what are your thoughts/experience here? I use HCG (only 250 1 x a week) but I stop for a month before my blood tests for lipids. (Im on statins).
If my lipids are out of whack,he makesme come back, etc. So I'd rather not deal w/ that, I go 4x a year as it is.

Anyways, let me know what you think. (Please).

 

[trtdoc]

Adex and Hcg is hard on lipids, so must be careful and follow healthy diet and use cardiovascular exercise as often as possible.

If it's too far past diet and exercise then certain statins can be added to your regime

Dr B

 

[Rot-Iron66]

Adex and Hcg is hard on lipids, so must be careful and follow healthy diet and use cardiovascular exercise as often as possible.

If it's too far past diet and exercise then certain statins can be added to your regime

Dr B

Thanks...

 

[Presser]

HGH has too many negative side effects and is becoming highly scrutinized by DEA. It is now pretty much required to place pts on hcg if they are on TRT. Most old providers are not up to date on research and we see they do not utilize.

Your talking mostly about your being looked at / scrutinized by DEA for prescribing HGH right? It's a shame someone was asleep at the wheel when it came to prescribing OxyContin, Percocet, and Fentnyl patches.

I guess it's a fine line doing what you think is right for your patients while trying to do right by yourself and not lose your license to practice!

personally I think what your doing with HRT or TRT is quite commendable and as I said before , extremely beneficial to those of us who actually need services like yours!