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Thanks guys. I was espically curious about the fatigue. I'm going through so many changes now, I wanted to eliminate the IGF as the culprit. I basically sat in a chair and did nothing from Jan 29 through March 28 due to a broken ankle. So just getting back into a daily routine was messing me up...

wizardsleeve!!!!!!!! PRICELESS!

Dude, I would die on 3 hours of sleep! If I dont get 6-8 hours I would die.

On 4/11 I was 232 BW in the a.m. My first week i was doing 40mcgs at night and wasnt feeling much. At week two, I went to 60 mcgs pre workout per some suggestions from here. (Ive been doing all SQ in the abdomin). I can't say I feel a whole bunch different, no crazy pumps, workouts have been...

Whats up man, I am sort of into powerlifting. I actually compete in strongman for a hobby. Look up Eric Cressey. He is a trainer out of M.A. Look for his book "Maximum Strength". It will change the way you look at training! It is design to improve all three lifts you are talking about. It is a...

Hahaha thanks Steph. Next time someone asks how much you bench, just ask them, how long do you lay on the couch?:lurk:

I find this thread interesting and may have a different perspective being a competitor in strongman. If you think about it, both "strength" and "looking strong" are opinions. Seeing as 80-90 % of people, meaning those who dont exercise, dont know what the hell they are talking about, who are we...

Thanks man, I think I got a plan to make it happen. Im just gonna "set up" at the gym. I talked to my buddy and its the only real way to make it happen. Its just tough with some of the other guys around. Some dont care, others make a big deal out of it, but fuck em. Go hard or go home! Thanks to...

Yeah thats what I figured Presser. I got to find a way to have the stuff with me. Its tough though. I work out of a truck, so I would be doing it there. If I could keep it a safe temperature, do you think I could load a syringe in the AM, and keep that with me? As much as I dont like doing it on...

Dana White said "no way" after the B.S in silvas last fight. I dont know, maybe changed his mind after cooling off. would be a sick fight though. Id bet the farm on GSP.

wow, thats a huge jump. How soon after do you take it?

Thanks Big Lifter, Im gonna try yours and Pressers suggestions. My question would be how soon before training can you take it? Its usually 6-8 hours from the time I leave my house till I train after work. Short of bringing stuff with me, not sure how Id do it.

Bout the same. Trained heavy chest and back today. Nothing unusual.

I do feel like I get a little tired right after application. But again, its at night, after dinner, so I really cant tell. I dont feel it during training, because, I assume, I dont take it pre-workout? Ive done two days at 60mcgs Ill see what happens. Thanks for the input. Really depend on the...

Yeah I bumped up to 60. Ill see how it goes.

No IM yet. I do eventually plan on doing IM. But there a couple problems. If I have read correctly, there are some time restrictions on pre & post workout APPLICATION. I hit the gym after work, 50 min from home. so I cant really carry the stuff to do it before. I could do post workout but it...

So I have finished one week on IGF. I have been doing SQ in the stomach and sides (love handles but I hate that f-n term!). I'll do 40 mcg usually an hour or two before bed. I was shocked at how little that actually is! I even checked it a bunch of times, hahaha. Honestly I havent noticed...

There is a good one that bags on cross-fit also, funny stuff.

I agree 1-d is a joke. There is an under the tongue pro-hormone that is amazing! I gained 15 LBs in 4 weeks and kept it. And it was very obvious from my strength gains. 30-50 lbs on most of my lifts. I dont think I can post the name, but there is only one manufacturer I know of. I plan on doing...

I like to eat about two hours before I train. Its one of my largest meals of the day, usually 1000+ cal. or so. Pre workout I use Jack 3D. And usually drink a gallon of water during my workout. I finish the second gallon which Ive had with me all day by dinner. Post workout Ill drink a shake...