44 and just started trt

I am not claiming to know it all. But I am aware of the same misinformation info that is on the net. People do what u said exactly, they go rampant on certain areas of things and research and they change what it really means to a big degree and everyone believes it and one author after another writes up the same bull!!!
I have always been pretty good at science of our bodies and understand enzymes, cells, receptors, mechanisms of action and our metabolism. I have read lots of studies alot with the crap articles. I see thru alot of the bull. I feel I can be very informative to guys who really wanna know. I try not to be too controversial on forums towards this misinformation but sometimes I tell what I know because I wanna help others to understand better.
I have ran osta straight thru my trt labs last time and all was good!!!!
That was encouraging.
Osta doesn't create the fat accumulations like deca does!!!
On your trt well myself my bp creeps up but if I stay with lower bmi and bf my bp is good. I am trying to get bf back down and my bp will be good again.


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Ya guys this forum has been invaluable! Im running Tb500 eod 1500 mcgs split between 2 injection sites ill keep tou posted. Im 3 weeks in on trt and my bp has crept up too gonna have to lose weight and give blood too, as said before my trt doc has me on 200 mg test cyp a week which at week 3 I beleive its too much, gonna call in today, bp was 154 over 94 thats up walking around at work so not too bad but I think I should just go give blood too, my hemacrit has probably skyrocketed at the dose of test I'm on.

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i tried peptides to see if they worked. i know there are no magic bullets out there, but the hope of relief from chronic pain is always a motivating force. no, don't try everything. i do spend some time researching, but i tell you the net can be a hot bed of misinformation. i did not know it needed to be used for awhile.
as for the osta, i've only used the mc brand. i need to get more, finances got short due to unforeseen circumstances. i certainly prefer the osta over deca when it comes to side effects, but the deca is great for the strength gains.
i originally got started with trt last sept, and i wasn't really looking for anything more than just boosting my testosterone. i felt a lot better doing that, but the info on here was great as well as other research on steroids. needless to say, misinformation in the world is rampant when it comes to such things. so i've tried a few other things and liked them. so, after i cruise little, i'll blast again.
plan to give blood here soon, my bp has been up as well. it's been getting a little higher with age, but trt and blast has increased it as well.
i don't get to talk with real ppl about this stuff, except on here and a little on another forum. i think this one gives a little better info. i don't go to a gym due to chemical sensitivities, and there are way too many ppl who wear way too much perfume or other scents, just about everywhere i go. it's ridiculous, these ppl wear it so much they don't even smell it any more. i know they've gotten use to it, but dang, i need to breath. there ought to be a law against it.
Check out neosource peptides that's where i got mine.

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Ya guys this forum has been invaluable! Im running Tb500 eod 1500 mcgs split between 2 injection sites ill keep tou posted. Im 3 weeks in on trt and my bp has crept up too gonna have to lose weight and give blood too, as said before my trt doc has me on 200 mg test cyp a week which at week 3 I beleive its too much, gonna call in today, bp was 154 over 94 thats up walking around at work so not too bad but I think I should just go give blood too, my hemacrit has probably skyrocketed at the dose of test I'm on.

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Don't call him. Any dose will create waves for a bit until it gets stable.
When u do bloods u will see where u come in on total and free testosterone and estrogen
NO matter what the dose your body can possibly counter with more water retention making bp rise but at 100 or 200 either dose isn't high enough to cause problems except with red blood possibly but just in some.
Let yourself get stable start doing cardio and your bp and health will get fixed that way

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If either of u have any questions I am more than happy to try and answer.
I am younger will be 41 but I have educated myself about what we doing very well.
Try me, I am willing to help!
I don't mind sharing my knowledge with anyone.
I like MC too. It's a good clean forum and has great info and some good members!!!

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ok guys ill bump up the cardio! The gains are crazy so far really coming back quick!

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Don't call him. Any dose will create waves for a bit until it gets stable.
When u do bloods u will see where u come in on total and free testosterone and estrogen
NO matter what the dose your body can possibly counter with more water retention making bp rise but at 100 or 200 either dose isn't high enough to cause problems except with red blood possibly but just in some.
Let yourself get stable start doing cardio and your bp and health will get fixed that way

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im not doing bloods until 90 days do you think it's too long to wait?

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im not doing bloods until 90 days do you think it's too long to wait?

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Not at all!
If u would be on a cycle u would be using 500-750 a week to say the least.
What is your bp?
Are i holding water?
Are u taking adex and at what dose?
If it's like 150/90 or something like that, that is not a big deal things usually level out. Your system needs to get used of the changes

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Just to let yall know.
I do therapeutic phlebotomy as often as every 3 weeks or as needed. Even on my trt dose of 50 mg @2x wk I gotta do it.
I just left lab to check my storage iron.
Last year it got low had to take iron with vitamin c for absorbsion.
I have to avoid high protein because it increases my red blood cells too much.
Then the loss of things in my whole blood have really affected my results from gym past few years. It sucks having this secondary polycythemia it looks like there aren't many that get it like I do.
I have noticed guys that have been on a long time are the ones more vulnerable to it.

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What kind of issues do you have? Like negative sides from the gym? Loss of muscle?

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What kind of issues do you have? Like negative sides from the gym? Loss of muscle?

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From doing blood I nothing that I notice.
But I have to keep protein lower cause red cells build too much.
So that keeps less muscle but I am almost 41 I weight 192 am 5' 8-9"
And my bf stays between 7-14%
Weight between 184-196.
Actually the red blood cells at gym give me biggest pump I ever seen and endurance is crazy.
Dr says if I don't keep them under 17 I am at risk for heart attack especially if I were to lose fluid like sweating too much!
So not really anything negative from it besides accepting I can't eat to grow bigger anymore.
My cells get to 19.7 often.
Went do iron test yesterday last year my storage iron hot low had to take iron just for a couple months.
Am due for phlebotomy waiting on results

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Not at all!
If u would be on a cycle u would be using 500-750 a week to say the least.
What is your bp?
Are i holding water?
Are u taking adex and at what dose?
If it's like 150/90 or something like that, that is not a big deal things usually level out. Your system needs to get used of the changes

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ya 150/90 and Anastrozole 1mg eod with hcg eod mk677 daily and I am holding water watching sodium im 3 weeks in and i went from 240 to 260 and i have lost some fat.



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ya 150/90 and Anastrozole 1mg eod with hcg eod mk677 daily and I am holding water watching sodium im 3 weeks in and i went from 240 to 260 and i have lost some fat.



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probably need to lose twenty or so too in fat

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ya 150/90 and Anastrozole 1mg eod with hcg eod mk677 daily and I am holding water watching sodium im 3 weeks in and i went from 240 to 260 and i have lost some fat.



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Sometimes it's the hcg that does that with water at first. I know a guy who went thru same and leveled off after a while.
Do this drink pure coconut water everyday I get pineapple one
Eat sweet potatoes, and dried apricots, and mangoes
Get your 4000mg a day and don't worry about sodium brother!

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Hey guys update: blood pressure went up to 184/100! ruled out hemoglobin/hemacrit with bloods, waiting on other bloods for estrogen levels at this point that's all it can be at this point , anastrozole was at 1mg EOD so its beyond me guess bloods will tell I guess.

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Holy shit. When was it taken? My doc used to have me take it twice a day. Once upon waking before eating or drinking and right before I go to bed. Also, are you using the correct cuff? You'll be surprised how many medical assistants make this mistake. You need to get that check out brother.
 
Hey guys update: blood pressure went up to 184/100! ruled out hemoglobin/hemacrit with bloods, waiting on other bloods for estrogen levels at this point that's all it can be at this point , anastrozole was at 1mg EOD so its beyond me guess bloods will tell I guess.

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I would drop the mk and the lgd!
If your goal is trt and to get stable bloods and find a trouble free dose I would drop them and focus on trt stabilization first!!!
Bp can go up as said the cuff not correct .
Example at pharmacy my bp is 117/65
At both my Dr's I see its 140-160/80-90
They make me check on my own.
I take photos and show Dr's. Once a week they have me check on own.
I do it at different pharmacy's they all read same!!!
I can use testosterone for months in on out even 750 for 5 of the months out the 6 between bloods.
I have no issue till I add deca or tren!!!
Especially tren and certain orals.
I don't worry about it, it's part of it all.
I take l-arginine and other nitric oxide boosters and I take cialis self administered at 10-15 mg a day everyday and bp is good like this!
Dramatic weight gain and muscle gain with affect kidneys and that will cause bp to rise!!! Drinking enough water helps alot. Letting body get used of one hormone or sarm or gh stimulator is important to isolate the culprit of what give u a problem because we all respond different than the next guy!

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There was another guy who started at 200 mg a week.
@dpile. He gained alot of water weight think he adjusted ai and maybe hcg don't remember.
I know he resolved it all and hit a blast of more not long ago.

If u were low on testosterone before trt u need to expect that your body will need to adjust to more hormones and that will trickle all the way thru estro, adrenals, then to kidneys.
Until things can get stabilized it will through a shock in body's system it was used to.

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Holy shit. When was it taken? My doc used to have me take it twice a day. Once upon waking before eating or drinking and right before I go to bed. Also, are you using the correct cuff? You'll be surprised how many medical assistants make this mistake. You need to get that check out brother.
ya bp was spiking it was legit took 1 bp med tablet and pissed out like 10 pounds of water and bp is much better!

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I would drop the mk and the lgd!
If your goal is trt and to get stable bloods and find a trouble free dose I would drop them and focus on trt stabilization first!!!
Bp can go up as said the cuff not correct .
Example at pharmacy my bp is 117/65
At both my Dr's I see its 140-160/80-90
They make me check on my own.
I take photos and show Dr's. Once a week they have me check on own.
I do it at different pharmacy's they all read same!!!
I can use testosterone for months in on out even 750 for 5 of the months out the 6 between bloods.
I have no issue till I add deca or tren!!!
Especially tren and certain orals.
I don't worry about it, it's part of it all.
I take l-arginine and other nitric oxide boosters and I take cialis self administered at 10-15 mg a day everyday and bp is good like this!
Dramatic weight gain and muscle gain with affect kidneys and that will cause bp to rise!!! Drinking enough water helps alot. Letting body get used of one hormone or sarm or gh stimulator is important to isolate the culprit of what give u a problem because we all respond different than the next guy!

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yes def went off the mk677 until I figured that out!


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