bigbaldbulldog
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We all know that noting beats a good diet for fropping bf% but as i read more over the years it seems that albuteral is better in the long run for fat loss the clenbuteral.. Does anyone else agree with that?
Albuteral -V- Clenbuteral....?
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big danny
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IMO it is useless for us, bb, is more an asthma drug.
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saudades
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Albuterol is the same thing as Salbutamol, which is a short-acting B2-agonist. Clenbuterol is a long-acting B2-agonist. In reading the profiles of both, only clenbuterol has listed that it has anabolic effects.
Stickler*
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short-acting b2-agonist vs long acting b2-agonist.... does that make a difference in the way the receptors respond over long periods of time?
this thread could go in different directions. short term might offer the body the ability to remove the need to cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks of clen.. therefor using albuterol as a way of keeping appetite suppression down, increase oxygen up for better workouts, and small bursts of body temperature increase without a buildup phase.
then again, the long term agonist might be the reason the body will sit a higher temperature at a resting rate for longer periods of time when clenbuterol is used outside of its prescribed usages (meanning taking 4, 5, 6, 7, or however many pills per day to increase the burning factors while sustaining the proven side affects of light anabolics)...
i personally always hated clen.. made me too stupid and my brain felt fried on it... the wife however.. always was an advocate..
I guess the question is then - using it for weight loss through increased body temp and appetite suppression OR use it for the weight loss with anabolic compounds but cycling ECA every two weeks to keep receptors fresh and the body guessing?
oh yeah... just .02 to continue discussion.. and if I'm totally off base here by all means please let me know.. I don't actually know the facts between the short term and long term factors of the compounds so any further insite/knowledge on the topic would be great
this thread could go in different directions. short term might offer the body the ability to remove the need to cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks of clen.. therefor using albuterol as a way of keeping appetite suppression down, increase oxygen up for better workouts, and small bursts of body temperature increase without a buildup phase.
then again, the long term agonist might be the reason the body will sit a higher temperature at a resting rate for longer periods of time when clenbuterol is used outside of its prescribed usages (meanning taking 4, 5, 6, 7, or however many pills per day to increase the burning factors while sustaining the proven side affects of light anabolics)...
i personally always hated clen.. made me too stupid and my brain felt fried on it... the wife however.. always was an advocate..
I guess the question is then - using it for weight loss through increased body temp and appetite suppression OR use it for the weight loss with anabolic compounds but cycling ECA every two weeks to keep receptors fresh and the body guessing?
oh yeah... just .02 to continue discussion.. and if I'm totally off base here by all means please let me know.. I don't actually know the facts between the short term and long term factors of the compounds so any further insite/knowledge on the topic would be great
Stickler*
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Actually.. Here's a quote of some info based off your statement that I found..
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Anabolic effects of the beta 2-adrenoceptor agonist salmeterol are dependent on route of administration.
Moore NG, Pegg GG, Sillence MN.
Department of Chemistry, University of Central Queensland, Rockhampton, Australia.
It is reported that a long duration of action is required for beta 2-adrenoceptor agonists to evoke an anabolic response. In the present study, we compare the potency of clenbuterol with that of the new long-acting compound salmeterol, when given at equimolar doses to female Wistar rats by different routes of administration. Given orally for 10 days, salmeterol had no effect on growth at a dose of 120 micrograms/day, whereas at 2.4 mg/day the drug caused significant increases in body and carcass weight and in the mass of the mixed-fiber gastrocnemius/plantaris and tibialis anterior muscles, but there were no increases in the slow-twitch soleus muscles. A similar growth response was seen when clenbuterol was given orally at a dose of only 97 micrograms/day, with an additional response seen in soleus muscle at 1.9 mg/day. Thus clenbuterol was more potent than salmeterol when given by this route of administration. When the drugs were infused by osmotic minipump, both salmeterol (130 micrograms/day) and clenbuterol (100 micrograms/day) caused increases in body weight gain and in the weights of the mixed-fiber muscles, with the most dramatic effect of infusion being to greatly increase the anabolic effect of salmeterol in soleus muscle. A single intraperitoneal injection of salmeterol (53 micrograms) or clenbuterol (40 micrograms) caused a similar rapid increase in the concentration of adenosine 3',5'-cyclic monophosphate in gastrocnemius muscle. These results indicate that the potency of salmeterol in vivo is dependent on its route of administration and that slow-twitch muscles are less sensitive than mixed-fiber muscles to the anabolic effects of beta 2-adrenoceptor agonists.
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Anabolic effects of the beta 2-adrenoceptor agonist salmeterol are dependent on route of administration.
Moore NG, Pegg GG, Sillence MN.
Department of Chemistry, University of Central Queensland, Rockhampton, Australia.
It is reported that a long duration of action is required for beta 2-adrenoceptor agonists to evoke an anabolic response. In the present study, we compare the potency of clenbuterol with that of the new long-acting compound salmeterol, when given at equimolar doses to female Wistar rats by different routes of administration. Given orally for 10 days, salmeterol had no effect on growth at a dose of 120 micrograms/day, whereas at 2.4 mg/day the drug caused significant increases in body and carcass weight and in the mass of the mixed-fiber gastrocnemius/plantaris and tibialis anterior muscles, but there were no increases in the slow-twitch soleus muscles. A similar growth response was seen when clenbuterol was given orally at a dose of only 97 micrograms/day, with an additional response seen in soleus muscle at 1.9 mg/day. Thus clenbuterol was more potent than salmeterol when given by this route of administration. When the drugs were infused by osmotic minipump, both salmeterol (130 micrograms/day) and clenbuterol (100 micrograms/day) caused increases in body weight gain and in the weights of the mixed-fiber muscles, with the most dramatic effect of infusion being to greatly increase the anabolic effect of salmeterol in soleus muscle. A single intraperitoneal injection of salmeterol (53 micrograms) or clenbuterol (40 micrograms) caused a similar rapid increase in the concentration of adenosine 3',5'-cyclic monophosphate in gastrocnemius muscle. These results indicate that the potency of salmeterol in vivo is dependent on its route of administration and that slow-twitch muscles are less sensitive than mixed-fiber muscles to the anabolic effects of beta 2-adrenoceptor agonists.
bigbaldbulldog
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h reason i ask is i have been hearing info that clenbuteral is beginning to pop up as a factor is soem heart disease issues.. yes AAS can but clen is beginning to show a real pattern where albuteral is not... thought?
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saudades
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lol, yep, there's too many of those. Both Salmeterol and Clenbuterol are long-acting B2 agonists. I'm under the assumption that because albuterol is short-acting, it isn't in the body long enough to cause the same effects.
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saudades
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Clen has been shown to cause some enlargement of the heart and hardening of the walls with long term use. Used sparingly, you shouldn't have a problem. Since albuterol doesn't stay in the body as long, it might not cause the same problem or it might only take much longer.
optimalbalance
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I've almost completly grew out of my asthma now but had it for years. From years of experience I cannot say that albuterol has much of anything to do with cutting up. I would not use it for cutting, just my opinion. Now the adrin. shots I got in the ER will rock your world! But they are no fun
Having asthma in the past and occasionally now I would say albuterol doesn't help burn fat because it's very short acting. I've always had a hard time getting really cut so I would say it doesn't have much of a use for BB purposes. In fact I stay away from clen too, because unlike albuterol it feels like it's very harsh on your body and creates a huge load on your CNS.
Local124bro
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Azmodeus said:
What about Methanoplex (axios Dbol) its got the Meth part in it ?? I get alot of drug tests for where I work, that would suck failing and look like a meth addict.
By meth I meant methamphetamine. It's completely different than what you're talking about. Unless you are a professional sports player or something for your job I doubt you have anything to worry about. Employers test for the most commonly used drugs in their tests, because the more things that are tested for the more expensive that test is. Hypothetically they could test for every substance known to man that is detectable by drug testing, but the cost of such a test would be astronomical. Because company’s main concern is being profitable they need to weigh the costs vs end results. Because more people smoke weed or meth (the 2 most popular rec drugs right now) it makes sense for them to test for those substances to eliminate potentially undesirable employees. The number of steroid users is significantly less in comparison, and to then narrow it down even further by testing for things like clenbuterol or any number of other prescription drugs that may be abused by a miniscule percentage of the population is simply not cost effective for most employers. The exceptions would be things like the NFL, MLB, NBA and Olympics. Because these entities are intrinsically concerned with performance enhancement in relation to the product (professional sports) they offer to their consumer (fan) it makes sense for them to test for not only the ordinary street drugs but all sorts of other things as well. And it doesn't hurt that these businesses profits run in the billions of dollars.
As far as I know even the US military and law enforcement doesn't random test for performance enhancement.
As far as I know even the US military and law enforcement doesn't random test for performance enhancement.
Local124bro
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I dont know anything about the chemical compounds so I was curious having the meth part in methanoplex. I didnt know if they had some of the same chemicals in it that would show up.
bushwacker
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I know this is old but you drink the albuteral right?
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saudades
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I don't know of any UG places that do albuterol.
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