Anavar Bridging

[thate1]

highside,
Please post your cycle from start to finish, including your bridge and clomid therapy. I am having trouble visualizing your plan.
Thanks

 

[highside]

Thate1. Here is what I am planning on. I am about to go off cycle next week. This is my second cycle.

2nd cycle
500 mg enanthate weeks 1-10
300 mg Deca weeks 1-10
Clomid Weeks 12-15 (I might use nolvadex instead)
Anavar 40mg ED weeks 11-20

3rd cycle
600 mg Prop weeks 1-12
400mg EQ weeks 1-12
35mg Dbol weeks 1-4
75mg Fina ED weeks 5-12
Then back to clomid and anavar again to bridge to the next cycle.

 

[thate1]

Damn highside no letting up on that one. I was thinking of doing something similar but with a shorter dbol bridge. Is your 3rd cycle starting on week 21 and are you taking that anavar all in the am?

 

[highside]

I want to start another cycle around 21 or 22. I am going to spread the anvar out throughout the day. I think the halflife is like 8 hours. You dont have to take it in the am only because it does not shut down your natrual test production like Dbol.

 

[highside]

I might not do another cycle at 21 or 22. I am thinking of staying off for a while after that and just stay on anavar for a long period. As long as it is ok with my liver. I dont know yet. I guess I will just decide later.

 

[46and2aheadofme]

The big advantage I read about it was the minimal or no effect it has on the body's natural test production. I dont think that even primo could beat that.

This is a myth. We had a discussion about this a while back and a study was posted that showed anavar, even at 10mg/day, substantially supressed the HPTA. IMO bridging is just a crutch for those who can't come off. The best idea for your health is to come completely off for as long as you can, at least 8-12 weeks. I've used anavar @ 40mg/day and dbol @ 10-15mg/day to bridge and found that the gains from the cycles after the bridge were not impressive. Bridging, to me, is a sign of addiction. From now on I will always come completely off for at least 12 weeks between cycles.
I know many will disagree, but thought I would state my opinion anyway.

 

[highside]

Are there any studies that say that. I would like to learn more about this. I dont see the use of using anavar at its high price if it shuts you down. Everything I have ever seen says it does not. If you know of any studies, could you post them.

 

[shokjosh456]

IMO bridging is just a crutch for those who can't come off. The best idea for your health is to come completely off for as long as you can, at least 8-12 weeks. I've used anavar @ 40mg/day and dbol @ 10-15mg/day to bridge and found that the gains from the cycles after the bridge were not impressive.

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I agree

 

[thate1]

This is a myth. We had a discussion about this a while back and a study was posted that showed anavar, even at 10mg/day, substantially supressed the HPTA. IMO bridging is just a crutch for those who can't come off. The best idea for your health is to come completely off for as long as you can, at least 8-12 weeks. I've used anavar @ 40mg/day and dbol @ 10-15mg/day to bridge and found that the gains from the cycles after the bridge were not impressive. Bridging, to me, is a sign of addiction. From now on I will always come completely off for at least 12 weeks between cycles.
I know many will disagree, but thought I would state my opinion anyway.

What about just 10mg of dbol by itself in the am with no anavar?

 

[fitnessbuff]

is this how pros stay on year round or do they use the use of hcg instead of bridging?

 

[highside]

I think they stay on a lot more than this bridge. There is a guy on animals board that seems close to being a pro. he talked about how he goes heavy and then back down light for a few weeks, then heavy again. His light weeks were like 400 or 500mg of test. I dont know any pros, but I would think they stay on preaty heavy year round.

 

[fitnessbuff]

ya, i think that might be a way, but wouldnt the test levels be unsteady? If so, would it matter for that short time of running test at a lower dose.

 

[highside]

I guess if your running prop it would. That is the thing I did not understand about this guy. He was talking about running enanthate and lowering the dosage for 4 weeks then going back up. I dont see the point in doing it with a long acting ester like that. He was even saying how he takes clomid on the low weeks. I forget where it was or who it was but there was a pro that was talking about the shit he does. He said he never comes off and stays on a lot of stuff. He said that he would never be able to come completly off for the rest of his life because he has fucked himself up so bad. He said his thyroid was also screwed. I will never be a pro or compete for that matter so I will never worry about that crazy stuff. There are some guys on this board that have stayed on year round. They could probably give some more input.

 

[46and2aheadofme]

Are there any studies that say that. I would like to learn more about this. I dont see the use of using anavar at its high price if it shuts you down. Everything I have ever seen says it does not. If you know of any studies, could you post them.

Here is a link to the thread:
http://board1.mantisforums.com/upload/showthread.php?threadid=7356&highlight=anavar

 

[Kevan]

I'd use dbol, cheaper and get good results from it, only takes 10mg every morning

 

[highside]

I remember that thread now. There are so many diffrent conflicitng studies. Some say it does, some say it does not. What studies are right. That is the first study I saw that said it does. I just wish I understood all that science language.

 

[46and2aheadofme]

Think back to that first cycle you ever did. Remember how much better it was than all your subsequent ones? That's the goal, to be as clean as possible for as long as possible in order to duplicate that fresh start. IMO, anyway.

 

[thate1]

I'd use dbol, cheaper and get good results from it, only takes 10mg every morning

How long do you do this for and does it seem to shut you down?

 

[thate1]

Bump, this thread is very interesting to me. I would like to see some more personal experiences with bridging.

 

[hard charger]

To bridge w/ D-bol: Take Clomid 2-3 weeks after last shot of cycle. Run Clomid 3-4 weeks (or whatever preference is). After Clomid, run 10-15mg D-bol e/m for 3-5 weeks then into next cycle. That is 10 weeks in between cycles based on coming off a 10 week cycle.

To bridge w/ Primo: Run 200-400mg Primo e/w after last shot of cycle. Run Primo for 10 weeks then it's into next cycle. Still running Clomid 2-3 weeks after last shot of cycle for 3-4 weeks. Again based on coming off a 10 week cycle.

This is just a general idea. Use whatever works for you.
Do a search for more info.