Anti-Estrogen during bulk cycle?

[nuknuk]

What would be your choice of anti-estrogen if you had to use one with a bulking cycle to help with gyno?

 

[Chris250]

a dex, using as little as possiable...for me that means about 1/2 mg 3 x a week...at what im doing now...(600mg test, 300mg deca per week) once I go back to HRT dose, (100-200mg per week) then I would go down to 1/2 mg 2 x a week....

 

[h8tr3d]

ive been using the a-dex from mc, and so far not too much bloat or gyno, but then again not too sure on the gear either

 

[The Dude]

I've been using Aqua Dex for this whole cycle as well, but not for gyno. Its kept my face and body from getting bloated. I don't get gyno. I use about .25mg ED. The gains are definately slower, but its all quality dense muscle. Its been 11 weeks and I'm up 11 - 12lbs. 259lbs yesterday. I have noticed a bit more joint pain than usual.

 

[CH3NO2]

The Dude and I talked about this just the other day. We both came to the conclusion that EOD Or something of the sort of Arimidex helped keep the BF% down and weighted gained was closer to a real number in pounds of muscle vs extra water gained.

 

[Zeus]

Dex is good for water bloat and that's all. Letro or aromison are the only way to go, esp if running a high dose of tren.

 

[The Dude]

Dex is good for water bloat and that's all. Letro or aromison are the only way to go, esp if running a high dose of tren.

I strongly disagree. Arimadex is good for about 80% prevention of estrogen conversion. Even this can be too high as I'm now seeing. A little estrogen is ESSENTIAL for muscle growth and joint health. Letro through my research and experience will stop 100% of estrogen conversion. That means zero estrogen. That with a heavy bulking cycle will have you torn to pieces in record time. I use letro only for the last 2 weeks prior to a show with very light weights.
I'm going to .25mg of Dex EOD.
As far as just preventing gyno I'm sure 10 - 20mg of Nolva will be plenty.
As far as tren..... it doesn't aromatize to estrogen at ANY dose. Anti E's are useless. Cabaser is what you need it that case.

 

[Presser]

I strongly disagree. Arimadex is good for about 80% prevention of estrogen conversion. Even this can be too high as I'm now seeing. A little estrogen is ESSENTIAL for muscle growth and joint health. Letro through my research and experience will stop 100% of estrogen conversion. That means zero estrogen. That with a heavy bulking cycle will have you torn to pieces in record time. I use letro only for the last 2 weeks prior to a show with very light weights.
I'm going to .25mg of Dex EOD.
As far as just preventing gyno I'm sure 10 - 20mg of Nolva will be plenty.
As far as tren..... it doesn't aromatize to estrogen at ANY dose. Anti E's are useless. Cabaser is what you need it that case.

That is correct! Tren converts to progesterone , so you will need an Anti-P & NOT an anti-e.

 

[Zeus]

Never use nolva for tren sides. Like presser said tren is a progesten and nolva can and will make sides worse. Anti-p like caber or prami is best. Though I do know people who swear by aromisen. Better safe than sorry in my OP. Prami is way cheaper than caber and works just as well.

 

[The Dude]

Never use nolva for tren sides. Like presser said tren is a progesten and nolva can and will make sides worse. Anti-p like caber or prami is best. Though I do know people who swear by aromisen. Better safe than sorry in my OP. Prami is way cheaper than caber and works just as well.

He was asking about an Anti E. No mention of tren.

 

[Zeus]

He was asking about an Anti E. No mention of tren.

You need to reread wat presser wrote than. That's why he said you need a anti-p not a ant-e for TREN sides. Besides I can write watever the fck I want. Just fckn with you. I'm not that big of a dick, LOL!!!!!!!

 

[Presser]

play nice boys, and when in doubt just take everything

 

[Zeus]

play nice boys, and when in doubt just take everything

I was just playn. I got kinda of a weird sense of humor. Runs in the family. :finger:

 

[NewFNG]

If adex is good for 80% how strong is asin.

 

[Chris250]

I was just playn. I got kinda of a weird sense of humor. Runs in the family. :finger:

Hey guys this is very true...I know Zeus...He has a crazy sense of humor..but he grows on ya !!!