Any ideas or suggestions for my 200mg/ml NPP experiment

[pavetim]

I'm going to experiment with 200mg/ml NPP to see what oil feels best and holds best. I am going to use 1% BA and no BB. Oils I will try are GSO, MCT, Boboa, cottonseed, apricot, sunflower. I'll do like 5ml of each and see how they turn out.

 

[Presser]

nope no suggestions lol, but wed like to know which oil is best with nandrolone phenyl propionate

 

[pavetim]

I have test phenyl prop too. What one you think will be harder to hold suspended? That's the one I want to experiment with

 

[d12hazz]

I used cottonseed and GSO with my Test PP each separately of course. Cottonseed is a little thicker and IMO may need BB, I used BB in mine. I would keep BA at 1.5 %. Test PP is super easy anyway.

 

[pavetim]

Well brewed 200mg/ml NPP in Baobab oil with 1% BA and so far looks beautiful. Tried 200mg/ml in MCT and failed bad heat it clear and it crashes just putting it in syringe now went to 150mg/ml and still looks like total failure. I'm heating in oven at 220degrees and seeing if it crashes once I take it out again if it does I'll try 100mg/ml. So far unless I'm doing something wrong I'm NOT happy with MCT

 

[pavetim]

Ask wemt to 100mg/ml even less cause some was wasted sticking to flask, 10%bb amd 1% ba and the MCT still crashes the second I pull it into syringe

 

[Gearhead40]

I'll save you the time/frustration/humiliation..

Absolutely no oil will work with your current recipe.

Well, I was too late...you tried it. Recipes exist for a reason. BB is used for a reason

 

[pavetim]

Well if they don't work then why have I gotten them to work before? BB is a thinner and preservative, if your oil is thin enough you don't need BB. I have sucessfully made gear with NO BB i'm just trying to find a better, easier oil to work with. So far the Baobab looks very promising and very easy to work with, just have to see if it holds good. Just can't figure out why my MCT didn't work, i even tried it with BB and still crashed. Well not sure it's MCT, it's fractionated Coconut oil is that the same as MCT?

 

[pavetim]

 

[pavetim]

Oops I feel dumb lol fractionated coconut oil is not the same as MCT so that's why it keeps crashing. Ok don't use fractionated coconut oil, first lesson.

 

[Zao]

No oils can handle this amount without solvent. If you want 200mg/ml NPP you can maybe TRY with solvent like guaiacol...

 

[J1mmyc]

Not quite I made 200mg/ml npp using powder guys recipes

2% BA
20% BB
100% EO

no need for anything else holds fine only had it crash slightly as its unusually cold in the UK the past week and my house is freezing if you can't use EO then you'll struggle to make it hold at 200mg/ml with GSO I think it's about 133mg/ml is max can hold in GSO

No oils can handle this amount without solvent. If you want 200mg/ml NPP you can maybe TRY with solvent like guaiacol...

 

[pavetim]

I have used straight EO and 50/50 gso/wo and still crashes sometimes I think it's the toe of oil too can't just generalize and say oil won't hold that concentration. My Baoba is holding and it's been like 60f in my room. I'll give it another few days then pin like .25ml to see if there is any strange reaction and see how smooth it is. Waiting on my other oils to experiment on. It's even strange sometimes I'll make 60ml of hear and put 10 in a smaller vial and one will crash but the other won't even tho it's the same batch so idk so
sometimes

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At ideas what's up with my fractionated coconut oil mix? Was wierd like today after settling it got sort of clear but as soon as I moved the vial totally cloudy again, needless to say fractionated coconut oil won't work and I tossed it.

 

[J1mmyc]

I'd be very shocked if you could make npp 200mg/ml hold without near enough 100% EO phenylpropionate ester seems like a right bitch to hold at high dosages

 

[pavetim]

Well thats the point of this whole thread to see what holds and what doesn't. Can't try them all but i'll try a few different ones.

 

[J1mmyc]

Well thats the point of this whole thread to see what holds and what doesn't. Can't try them all but i'll try a few different ones.

I understand that but I'd be very surprised if you could find any recipe that doesn't need EO all recipes I've seen for high dosage stuff is all EO but good luck and I'll be keep an eye out on this thread

 

[thx]

Has any of you guys made gear with just MCT oil and BA with normal concentrations of the gear?
Like 250mg/ml testosterone cyp with only 1.9% BA?

 

[pavetim]

I was going to try MCT but mistakenly used fractionated coconut oil I thought were the same. I'll buy some mct and try it. As of now even sitting in my room at 60 degrees when I'm not home my NPP in Baobo oil is holding solid. I'll let it sit another couple days and try pinning a small amount in virgin muscle to see how it pins. Still waiting for my apricot, and cotton seed oil to try those.