china whats up

[Chris250]

At the moment I’m being asked (frequently) whether or not there are major busts going on in China, related to either GH and/or powder. So at the moment, while I’m not able to confrirm anything for sure, I can say that there are heavy, heavy rumors about ORD-style busts happening in China.
Although, as I recall, we in the underground knew about the DEA presence in China in late July/early August, while ORD actually hit American sources in late September…
At this stage, the rumors don’t seem 100% credible to me… Remember, the USA couldn’t touch Lei Jin, who was the largest Chinese GH dealer in the world, who had been dealing illegally not only to remailers (Brock Falkenhagen, etc…) but to huge compounding pharmacies (he supplied Signature and all of those celebrities)…the entire DEA/FDA was told to suck a d!ck by China, and this was right before the Beijing Olympics. Lei remained free, Leo remained free, etc…

Why would China start arresting dealers now? Why would they lend our law enforcement agencies a hand? IT doesn’t seem likely….but stranger things have happened…and at this stage, it’s important to realize that this is only a rumor (which I’ve heard from multiple sources), which seems to have originated on one message board in particular.

 

[Chris250]

sorry it came out light colored...

came from a.roberts site...

 

[big in vegas]

This is the first I've heard of this, but it seems unlikely. I would like to think the US DEA would stick to domestic issues and not try to stop someone thousands of miles away. Protecting our soil and citizens is one thing, but going over there just doesn't seem justifiable. But like you said, stranger things have happened. It just seems like controlling customs would be better served to keep things from coming in, if it's not Lei, it'll be someone else some place else

 

[saudades]

sorry it came out light colored...

came from a.roberts site...

Fixed it for you.

 

[big in vegas]

Fixed it for you.

I wish I would've waited, it was killing me trying to read it like that

 

[majortguns]

I think alot of countries are going to start telling the U.S. to suck a dick and mind its own business.

 

[dorian123]

I think alot of countries are going to start telling the U.S. to suck a dick and mind its own business.

nope, the drug companies are losing money so they are paying off other countries to bust people

 

[mike ross]

This is the first I've heard of this, but it seems unlikely. I would like to think the US DEA would stick to domestic issues and not try to stop someone thousands of miles away. Protecting our soil and citizens is one thing, but going over there just doesn't seem justifiable. But like you said, stranger things have happened. It just seems like controlling customs would be better served to keep things from coming in, if it's not Lei, it'll be someone else some place else

Untrue in a lot of cases big...US uses its influence in ways you dont always see. Look at mexico...and look how they pressured Thailand into not renewing BD license to produce dbol under their trade name. The Thai govt denied it due to heavy pressure from US govt...you can search it, its well documented

USA cares, trust me...and they use any and all means to make other govts do their willing...true many are saying stuff it...but there are some countries that will cooperate

 

[Rep]

I might be able to help with the pharmacy politics but Im not in the loop like chris. Look guys, I remember back around the year 2000. A lot of pharmacies could make (compound) there own drugs for exotic pets or different doses that docs or vets prescribed. It became so huge that chains started popping up. I went to a meeting about buying one myself. I live close to a horse track and had an in with a few trainers, wink, wink. Now, while I was trying to secure the papers, licenses and stuff, the big boys (pharmacuetical companies) lobbied with there millions of dollars and shut down most compunding pathways by saying the pharamcy was manufacturing. They didnt stop it completely but its real hard nowdays to do unless you are flying under the radar. I have hundreds of stories about it and it would disgust you. My point is, that if a big company finds out they are losing a lot of business from China, Turkey or whereever, you better beleive they have a direct line to lobby and get people and things done. Pharmacuetical companies, (I have friends that work for many) are about as crooked as the mob.

 

[mike ross]

I might be able to help with the pharmacy politics but Im not in the loop like chris. Look guys, I remember back around the year 2000. A lot of pharmacies could make (compound) there own drugs for exotic pets or different doses that docs or vets prescribed. It became so huge that chains started popping up. I went to a meeting about buying one myself. I live close to a horse track and had an in with a few trainers, wink, wink. Now, while I was trying to secure the papers, licenses and stuff, the big boys (pharmacuetical companies) lobbied with there millions of dollars and shut down most compunding pathways by saying the pharamcy was manufacturing. They didnt stop it completely but its real hard nowdays to do unless you are flying under the radar. I have hundreds of stories about it and it would disgust you. My point is, that if a big company finds out they are losing a lot of business from China, Turkey or whereever, you better beleive they have a direct line to lobby and get people and things done. Pharmacuetical companies, (I have friends that work for many) are about as crooked as the mob.

100% true...we had to stop compounding estrogen creams and gels where i worked due to a ruling on a lawsuit by the makers of premarin....money talks guys, especially in the US...always will

 

[Presser]

At the moment I’m being asked (frequently) whether or not there are major busts going on in China, related to either GH and/or powder. So at the moment, while I’m not able to confrirm anything for sure, I can say that there are heavy, heavy rumors about ORD-style busts happening in China.
Although, as I recall, we in the underground knew about the DEA presence in China in late July/early August, while ORD actually hit American sources in late September…
At this stage, the rumors don’t seem 100% credible to me… Remember, the USA couldn’t touch Lei Jin, who was the largest Chinese GH dealer in the world, who had been dealing illegally not only to remailers (Brock Falkenhagen, etc…) but to huge compounding pharmacies (he supplied Signature and all of those celebrities)…the entire DEA/FDA was told to suck a d!ck by China, and this was right before the Beijing Olympics. Lei remained free, Leo remained free, etc…

Why would China start arresting dealers now? Why would they lend our law enforcement agencies a hand? IT doesn’t seem likely….but stranger things have happened…and at this stage, it’s important to realize that this is only a rumor (which I’ve heard from multiple sources), which seems to have originated on one message board in particular.

I heard from someone I believe to be telling the truth that 99% of all HGH factories in China were raided. I dont use the stuff personaly but ill bet alot of guys will be paying alot more money for their shit soon

 

[mike ross]

well most have been spoiled...when i used it and was helping guys it was 500+ a kit from serono and that was black market price. RY Roid and me used to be reselling it like water that price...10 kits weekly and it was real...now all this UG shit for the last few years and guys got spoiled...remember when mex or aussie gear was the shit and it was 100 per bottle for cyp...hell cyp is 35-40 right now for UG stuff...guys seem to forget the old days

 

[Chris250]

well most have been spoiled...when i used it and was helping guys it was 500+ a kit from serono and that was black market price. RY Roid and me used to be reselling it like water that price...10 kits weekly and it was real...now all this UG shit for the last few years and guys got spoiled...remember when mex or aussie gear was the shit and it was 100 per bottle for cyp...hell cyp is 35-40 right now for UG stuff...guys seem to forget the old days

oh I remember those days...yes, cyp or enth might be that cheap, but what is in it ? beside cyp or the enth. some of these UG labs scare the crap out of me...:dizzy:

 

[big in vegas]

I might be able to help with the pharmacy politics but Im not in the loop like chris. Look guys, I remember back around the year 2000. A lot of pharmacies could make (compound) there own drugs for exotic pets or different doses that docs or vets prescribed. It became so huge that chains started popping up. I went to a meeting about buying one myself. I live close to a horse track and had an in with a few trainers, wink, wink. Now, while I was trying to secure the papers, licenses and stuff, the big boys (pharmacuetical companies) lobbied with there millions of dollars and shut down most compunding pathways by saying the pharamcy was manufacturing. They didnt stop it completely but its real hard nowdays to do unless you are flying under the radar. I have hundreds of stories about it and it would disgust you. My point is, that if a big company finds out they are losing a lot of business from China, Turkey or whereever, you better beleive they have a direct line to lobby and get people and things done. Pharmacuetical companies, (I have friends that work for many) are about as crooked as the mob.

I guess I never thought of this, but I can understand it now. I was totally wrong in thinking that the US would stay out of it, but I now see why they wouldn't. Kind of shitty, but it's understandable

 

[mike ross]

oh I remember those days...yes, cyp or enth might be that cheap, but what is in it ? beside cyp or the enth. some of these UG labs scare the crap out of me...:dizzy:

exactly its a crap shoot...and thats something i wont deal with anymore, hence i just stay clean...sux in a way, but, ive had a few friends get an abscess and thats just too much for me..if it was my life or means to make a living, then yes...best thing you can do is find a reliable legit source and stick with them, no matter what the pricing does...