Cholesterol

[finephysique]

When I was on pro/fina my cholesterol was thru the roof, Doctor gave me script for lipitor. Doc stated that it was very toxic and needed to have blood work done on a regular basis. I found a natural alternative to reduce choesterol. Puritan Pride carries Policanosol a natural derivative fron sugar cane. After 2 months I had my blood checked again and the doc asked if I was still on lipitor because my levels dropped 40 points. He was shocked when I told him I found a natural alternative to the toxic script.

Give this a try, its natural and works.

Is there another name for it we don't have anything under that name over here, I'm in Ireland

 

[orionn]

Try www.puritan.com under cardiovascular you will find Policosanol.

 

[finephysique]

Thanks bro, I found a UK supplier of policosanol and they have a sale on at present so looks like I will have to give it a go

 

[bilter]

ok, here we go. Recommended compounds to improve / maintain healthy lipid profiles while on cycle.

Tamoxifen (nolvadex) increases hdl & lowers total serum cholesteral. 20 mg pd while on...negetives. may decrease total gains http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/16/10/1632
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2199681&dopt=Abstract
red rice yeast (cholestin) contains levostatin (natural) (the active ingrdient in lipator and other statin drugs) this was almost banned by the FDA. Cholestin is not cheap but test results are very positive so its worth it to me.
http://www.cspinet.org/nah/4_99/cholestin.htm

In addition I would add (in fact I always take the folowing anyway as a daily supp)

Green tea: some conflicting studies concerning lipid profile benefits but its cheap and a good antioxident.
omega 3 : (1100md pd) no change in mean total cholesterol BUT: lower LDL levels after 28 days http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/77/1/37

policisinol (20 mg pd) lowers total cholesteral, lower LDL, higher HDL, improved ratio http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11708574&dopt=Abstract

Add in cardio, clean diet and that will be my plan for my next cycle to help maintain a healthy lipid profile. Hope this helps good luck

If anyone trys part or all of the above during a cycle please provide feedback as there seems to be a great deal of interest in this subject. Afterall its our longterm health we thinkin of here.

 

[doctorwill]

Bilter has a nice list, but there are two that I think are a bit iffy.

The Center for Science in the Public Interest is a well respected nonprofit organization that examines some of the medical claims - something like a consumer reports for medicine.

go to www.cspinet.org/nah/04_04/heartsupplements_canada.pdf

They have a nice overview of the compounds that can help your heart (fish oil, Niacin, Psyllium or metamucil, plant sterols found in the margerines Benecol or Take Control, asprin, folic acid.) They do so by lowering your cholesterol and through other routes as well.

What doesn't work (or what has no evidence that is acceptable to a scientist)? Guggol, Isoflavones, Policosanol, Garlic, Red Yeast Rice, Tocotrienols.

Red Yeast Rice sold as Cholestin did work. That is because it was spiked with a UG version of a statin drug (smart move, but if you want that just buy a UG statin for a LOT less.) Now it is made without that and there is no research on the new, undoctored, formula. (I took it for a while.)

Most of the research on Policosinol was done by a group of researchers in Cuba; it has never been shown to provide effective results in tests in Canda, the US, Europe or Japan. And, the policosinol used in the US Supplements is DIFFERENT from what they use in Cuba. (I took this as well.)

I should add that I take the ones they suggest. I stopped Niacin b/c it is hard on the liver at those doses (2 grams per day).

Green tea is helpful in a host of ways. Drink it and take supps.

If you want to look at how your screwed up cholesterol and BP will effect your chance of kicking, go to http://www.cspinet.org/nah/10_01/heartattack_risk.html and figure it out. It made me take gear more seriously. If you use, you should take the supps and meds so you don't lose a couple of years of life.

 

[bilter]

good points Drwill. did not know that about the cholestin or the Policosinol, thanks for the info. I am very interested in how novadex when taken throuhout a cycle affects lipids especially if anvar is included in the cycle as it is notoriously hard on HDL levels

 

[mango]

niacin, policosanol, guggul are all great and can all help with cholesterol numbers...

check out: www.beyond-a-century.com for bulk as well as for other supps for cholesterol.