Eccentric exercise – slower might not be more productive

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by Anthony RobertsIf I were to grab a bunch of bodybuilding magazines off the shelf this month, no doubt I’d see countless articles that talk about the importance of the eccentric (lowering) portion of various exercises. “Slowly lower the weight” has been part of bodybuilding dogma for decades, with recommendations ranging from a 4 second lowering phase and upwards.

This, they tell us, is where muscle is built – the Holy Grail of hypertrophy. Some bodybuilders even take it to the next level by doing “negative reps” at the end of their sets, where they slowly -agonizingly slowly – lower the weight while a spotter helps them lift it. However, although lowering a weight doesn’t make you much stronger, it does happen to cause more damage to your muscle than actually lifting the weight. Because of this increased damage it is thought that prolonging the eccentric portion of the lift will result in substantially more hypertrophy.

But a strange thing happens when we look at Olympic Weightlifters, who typically don’t do much eccentric training at all (*they drop the bar to the floor at the top of a max lift): we see a reasonable amount of hypertrophy, albeit without the same level of conditioning we see with bodybuilders. And of course powerlifters often display an extreme level of hypertrophy despite little to no emphasis, other than what’s required in competition, for the eccentric range.

And, bodybuilding being what it is, if lowering the weight for 3 seconds causes increased muscle growth, then lowering it for six seconds must cause even more growth, right? Eventually we even saw “super slow” protocols that advocated 30-60 second eccentric training. And, in contrast to the extreme emphasis on the eccentric portion of the rep, we now have a study that shows the hypertrophic pathways appear to be similarly stimulated with both slow and quick eccentric contractions. Lowering the weight under control, and avoiding injury is a good thing, but perhaps lowering it to an exaggerated tempo may not produce additional results:
Applied Physiology, Nutrition, and Metabolism, 2011, 36:283-290, 10.1139/h10-111

Abstract
The solid bars represent quick lowering of the weight, the empty bars represent slow lowering.
It has been suggested that muscle tension plays a major role in the activation of intracellular pathways for skeletal muscle hypertrophy via an increase in mechano growth factor (MGF) and other downstream targets. Eccentric exercise (EE) imposes a greater amount of tension on the active muscle. In particular, high-speed EE seems to exert an additional effect on muscle tension and, thus, on muscle hypertrophy. However, little is known about the effect of EE velocity on hypertrophy signaling. This study investigated the effect of acute EE-velocity manipulation on the Akt/mTORCI/p70S6K hypertrophy pathway. Twenty subjects were assigned to either a slow (20°·s–1; ES) or fast EE (210°·s–1; EF) group. Biopsies were taken from vastus lateralis at baseline (B), immediately after (T1), and 2 h after (T2) the completion of 5 sets of 8 repetitions of eccentric knee extensions. Akt, mTOR, and p70S6K total protein were similar between groups, and did not change postintervention. Further, Akt and p70S6K protein phosphorylation were higher at T2 than at B for ES and EF. MGF messenger RNA was similar between groups, and only significantly higher at T2 than at B in ES. The acute manipulation of EE velocity does not seem to differently influence intracellular hypertrophy signaling through the Akt/mTORCI/p70S6K pathway
 
When I read this the one thing I wondered is who in the hell ever thought doing an eccentric part of any lift for 30-60 seconds is simply a nut. I couldn't imagine doing that, 3-5 is long enough
 
I never noticed greater gains training "slowly". If anything you lose strength cause you are not moving as much weight as possible.

I train just slow enough to avoid injury.
 
gonna have to disagree with this study, plenty of study to contradict it on the I-A-R-T website.
As for the Olympic lifters, a lot of them train NEGATIVE ONLY for the majority of the year, almost right up until the time of competition.

As for the cadence of the the rep, it's all relative to time under tension-not the number of reps during a set
 
Im not even going to bother reading this article based on the title subject, if its saying that the eccentric part is no good then thats a crock of shit,lol, I guess I should read this article before jumping the gun but its late, maybe tomorow,lol, but i do very very slow eccentric movements every now and then and it definatly has its place in bodybuilding and changing up ur routine time to time,
 
I think Roberts has come to a mistaken conclusion. Whoever said that we do very slow eccentric movements only for hypertrophy? If anything, I'd say it's more a benefit of strengthening tendons--a must when you increase the size of your muscles very quickly.
 
I think Roberts has come to a mistaken conclusion. Whoever said that we do very slow eccentric movements only for hypertrophy? If anything, I'd say it's more a benefit of strengthening tendons--a must when you increase the size of your muscles very quickly.

Yea, you're correct. I will slow things down to build tendon strength after muscle gains to get everything caught up and I will do slower eccentric reps to really keep the muscle under tension and get a great squeeze/pump from it
 
And for the record, I think Anthony Roberts is a damn idiot, his blogs are always good for conversation
 
how do some of these guys come up with the conclusion to their studies is what I want to know...

there are so many loop holes that the study usually is pointless
 
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