First cycle in 5 years- Strange cycle question

[Doc Johnson]

Here's my bio. 5 or 6 years ago I was a heavy reader and daily poster on this board. (I hope it's the same people and not just the old URL). Anyway, I did about 4 cycles, mostly your standard stuff, Test/Deca, Test/EQ/Winny and one bad one that included some Dbol (and a free pair of tits! Thankfully the gyno wasn't that bad and has since gone down but I'm staying away.)

I went up from 6'0 168lbs to about 195lbs. I've maintained that for a while now but after just turning 32 I think it's time to do a nice bulking cycle that doesn't retain too much water and gives me good keepable gains. I have a friend who is huge and maintains so much muscle, cycle after cycle, I finally asked him exactly what he was on. Turns out Tren, EQ and DECA?!?! I know, weird right. I know it's not conventional by interenet standards but from my experience there are three types of experts. The ones who get all their info from the internet only, the ones who get it from the gym only and the ones who get it from both. The internet guys tend to repeat the same things that have been on these boards for years, the gym guys just do whatever they can get their hands on and use trial and error and the guys who get info from both seem to really know their shit and aren't just repeating stuff.

Now my question. Does anyone run Deca and EQ together and get results? Not "It wont be very effective becasue EQ and Deca are so similar" but actually ran it together.

Second question. What about a Tren, EQ and HGH cycle? (No Insulan or T3. I am a little leery of that stuff)

Sorry for the long first post. Presser. Good to see you again. I'm sure you don't remember me but if you are the same guy you new your stuff and I benefitted greatly from your wisdom and experience in the past.

 

[Presser]

actualy deca and eq are quite good together and that bullshit about not using them together is just that bullshit, done it and felt both while running them together, , tren and eq alot of guys swear by, as for me i swear by tren,prop,winny, though never treyd adding eq to that combo alot of guys say its better yet ,

as for presser he is me and we are the same handsome feller we use to be,lmao

and good to have ya back

 

[Doc Johnson]

Winny just never seems to be worth the expense for me. At least not for what I paid for it. Plus another ML to inject every day is a pain in the ass. Litterally. What about Tren, EQ and Growth. Nothing else other than your standard Anti-estrogens and post cycle therapy. Do I need slin or t3 with that cycle? I've never ran growth but some of my friends swear by it.

 

[Presser]

well tren has pregesterone side effects not estrogen so it isnt just your standard anti-e's needed bro, and i am a firm believer in always having or adding in some sort of test bro, and yeah hgh or igf is always good to toss in the mix bro, , as far as needing t3 or slin, well i personaly dont fuck with those things and unless ur at the top of ur game ready to step on stage i wouldnt bother with them either

 

[Doc Johnson]

Oh yeah, that's right. I've never run Tren. I'll do a little of my own leg work on it and do some reading. Back when I used to post here about the only things I heard about were Nolvadex, Clen and HCG for post cycle or estrogen-suppression. Seems like there are a ton of new products and theories out there even for the run of the mill cycle that I should read up on let alone on on the safe use of Tren.

As for test I just really don't want to deal with the sides plus it seems like everything I get from the test I lose so I was trying to find an alternative. I may drop the HGH and go test prop though. I would hate to waste all that gear. Maybe, EQ, Tren and Prop.

 

[Presser]

just my opinions brutha, im sure others will chime in with some ideas

 

[mikeswift]

I'm not a big fan of high dose test but if you're going to run this cycle I would consider running at least some test with it. I love EQ and I always get incredible results from it so i would definitely use it with your cycle, winny has always been good to me but it gets hard on the the joints and instead of injecting it oral works just as well.
As for PCT you can still use Nolva and HCG but Clomid is probably better in my opinion and you can run arimidex during you cycle to keep bloat and sides down.

Welcome back to the site bro.

 

[dreww]

Winny just never seems to be worth the expense for me. At least not for what I paid for it. Plus another ML to inject every day is a pain in the ass. Litterally. What about Tren, EQ and Growth. Nothing else other than your standard Anti-estrogens and post cycle therapy. Do I need slin or t3 with that cycle? I've never ran growth but some of my friends swear by it.

winny is fairly cheap nowadays....compared to say anavar.

You are talking about using growth, which requires at least 1 shot a day and usually 2. But you dont want to shoot winny once a day? You could drink the winny as well and save alot of pokes.

 

[mntinman1]

actualy deca and eq are quite good together and that bullshit about not using them together is just that bullshit, done it and felt both while running them together, , tren and eq alot of guys swear by, as for me i swear by tren,prop,winny, though never treyd adding eq to that combo alot of guys say its better yet ,

as for presser he is me and we are the same handsome feller we use to be,lmao

and good to have ya back

I started today a cycle that will include both Deca and EQ and of course Test. I think it going to turn out great! Never thrwon tren it but hmm could be something to give a wirl.

 

[Doc Johnson]

The reason I don't mind HGH but wouldn't do winny every day is that HGH would be subq injections. I don't even feel those. It's when I gotta jab a dart two inches in to my quads or glutes every day with 2.5ML of highly concentrated shit do I start really questioning my cycle. (I can't hit anyplace else... I'm a pussy). True, you can drink the winny but the last time I got it it was EQL labs oil based. Are they still around? I might replace the HGH with Winny depending on price. Thanks for the advice.

 

[mntinman1]

The reason I don't mind HGH but wouldn't do winny every day is that HGH would be subq injections. I don't even feel those. It's when I gotta jab a dart two inches in to my quads or glutes every day with 2.5ML of highly concentrated shit do I start really questioning my cycle. (I can't hit anyplace else... I'm a pussy). True, you can drink the winny but the last time I got it it was EQL labs oil based. Are they still around? I might replace the HGH with Winny depending on price. Thanks for the advice.

Its funny how everybody is different I cannot due a quad injection to save my soul. Start breaking out in a cold sweet and get light headed and pail. But I can hit my delt every day and am going to try doing tricep. I don't know if I would put the winny any where but my glut, but that just me.

 

[Doc Johnson]

yeah dude, I went too deep on a quad injection once. I had two small of a guage pin so as I'm pushing the plunger I didn't realize I had it burried to the hilt. I sat in a bathtub for 6 hours practically in tears in a hotel on a business trip. I couldn't walk the next day at a meeting. Everyone always half teases me about being juiced anyway so I'm always self-concies about it. That was a bad experience. Like anything though, if you do it enough it stops becoming a big deal. If you are doing daily injections you're going to have to find some other muscle other than the glutes and the Quads are just so convenient.