Got some bad news today

Curious as well. I used to frequently bench heavy- high 400's on flat and incline twice a week. Shoulders just started screaming at me, training delts daily for 8 months didn't help either I imagine. I had been stuck benching 135 for a couple of months and now feel 300's are back on the table after a proper warm up.


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I used to do a shit ton of sets of incline barbell bench, but only do every so often now. I went over 300 for a couple sets the other day on flat bench, but definitely not lifting as heavy & as often as I was. Hope the 2 month break you took fixed your problem permanently. I've took a few months off on a couple different occasions over the last several years, but it didn't fix my issue.
 
Got the results back from my mri. The dr had a couple pieces of bad news for me, but I was expecting that. Apparently, I have a puncture or small tear in my posterior labrum. Believe it or not, I was actually slightly relieved to hear this because it is not a full tear. On the other hand, it is not just going to go away with rest, so the dr has referred me to a specialist. I have a couple ideas of how this could be handled, but I will just wait & see what he thinks I should do, before jumping to conclusion.

Other issue he found, is early signs of osteoarthritis. I was actually more bummed out by hearing this, than I was about my labrum. One way or another, I know they can fix the labrum issue. Osteoarthritis doesn't go away though. He said it shouldn't give me many issues at this point. I've got my head on straight about it though
 
I've had rotator cuff surgery on both shoulders. One a complete full thickness tear, requiring drilling and anchoringbthe tendon (supraspinatus, specifically) to the humerus (sp??) bone - the upper arm bone. I, tpo, put it off for 10 or so years before having the surgery done.

I will tell you that the pain post surgery is the worst I've ever experienced. I, too have a high tolerance for pain and it literally took my breath away just sitting in my easy chair.

However, after a short time, I found that as long as I followed the Doc's instructions, I didn't hurt all that much. I went to PT for the first surgery. I rehabbed the second one myself in my home gym. I only did this because I knew what to do from the previous; and the second was less serious, not requiring the passive stretching the therapist did with me on the first one.

This was in 2009. I then fracture dislocated the left shoulder 6 months after that surgery and had to start all over again. This injury included nerve damage. My shoulder muscles literally melted away to nothing. I could see the ends of my bones - literally skin and bones! Again I rehabbed it in my home gym.

After this injury I started doing "dumbbell rows" - without the dumbbell, bexause I was too weak to row even a 5 lb dumbbell. Started from there and worked up slowly. Same with lateral raises: started empty handed. Moved up to bands; eventually dumbbells. Today I dumbbell row 80 lb dumbbells for 10 reps per set. I'm up to 200 or so lbs body weight at 12 or so % fat. And I'm doing sets of 5 with 295 on the bench when training chest. And I do ALL the major shoulder movements when I train shoulders. So, YES, full recovery is ABSOLUTELY possible if you work at it.

As I remember, I had to wear a sling for a LONG TIME. I forget now just how many weeks, but I think it was 12. I had the surgeries done back to back and was out of work for a solid 10 months. Thank God I had temporary disability insurance.

Like Mechanic said, worst thing for a joint is to keep it still. I know when I've waited too long between shoulder workouts when they start to HURT! Ironically, when that happens, a good workout always makes it feel better! I tend to use mainly dumbbells for shoulder work, only occasionally doing barbell military press. This helps recruit the stabilizing muscles and builds overall joint strength and helps with "functional strength".

Also like Mechanic said, I've used peptides to help heal. I've used igf-1 with success. I would not hesitate to use HGH if I thought I needed it or that it would help me with something specific. But if you need surgery, you need surgery. MRI should tell the tale.
 
Got the results back from my mri. The dr had a couple pieces of bad news for me, but I was expecting that. Apparently, I have a puncture or small tear in my posterior labrum. Believe it or not, I was actually slightly relieved to hear this because it is not a full tear. On the other hand, it is not just going to go away with rest, so the dr has referred me to a specialist. I have a couple ideas of how this could be handled, but I will just wait & see what he thinks I should do, before jumping to conclusion.

Other issue he found, is early signs of osteoarthritis. I was actually more bummed out by hearing this, than I was about my labrum. One way or another, I know they can fix the labrum issue. Osteoarthritis doesn't go away though. He said it shouldn't give me many issues at this point. I've got my head on straight about it though

TB 500 and Peg MGF?


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I've had rotator cuff surgery on both shoulders. One a complete full thickness tear, requiring drilling and anchoringbthe tendon (supraspinatus, specifically) to the humerus (sp??) bone - the upper arm bone. I, tpo, put it off for 10 or so years before having the surgery done.

I will tell you that the pain post surgery is the worst I've ever experienced. I, too have a high tolerance for pain and it literally took my breath away just sitting in my easy chair.

However, after a short time, I found that as long as I followed the Doc's instructions, I didn't hurt all that much. I went to PT for the first surgery. I rehabbed the second one myself in my home gym. I only did this because I knew what to do from the previous; and the second was less serious, not requiring the passive stretching the therapist did with me on the first one.

This was in 2009. I then fracture dislocated the left shoulder 6 months after that surgery and had to start all over again. This injury included nerve damage. My shoulder muscles literally melted away to nothing. I could see the ends of my bones - literally skin and bones! Again I rehabbed it in my home gym.

After this injury I started doing "dumbbell rows" - without the dumbbell, bexause I was too weak to row even a 5 lb dumbbell. Started from there and worked up slowly. Same with lateral raises: started empty handed. Moved up to bands; eventually dumbbells. Today I dumbbell row 80 lb dumbbells for 10 reps per set. I'm up to 200 or so lbs body weight at 12 or so % fat. And I'm doing sets of 5 with 295 on the bench when training chest. And I do ALL the major shoulder movements when I train shoulders. So, YES, full recovery is ABSOLUTELY possible if you work at it.

As I remember, I had to wear a sling for a LONG TIME. I forget now just how many weeks, but I think it was 12. I had the surgeries done back to back and was out of work for a solid 10 months. Thank God I had temporary disability insurance.

Like Mechanic said, worst thing for a joint is to keep it still. I know when I've waited too long between shoulder workouts when they start to HURT! Ironically, when that happens, a good workout always makes it feel better! I tend to use mainly dumbbells for shoulder work, only occasionally doing barbell military press. This helps recruit the stabilizing muscles and builds overall joint strength and helps with "functional strength".

Also like Mechanic said, I've used peptides to help heal. I've used igf-1 with success. I would not hesitate to use HGH if I thought I needed it or that it would help me with something specific. But if you need surgery, you need surgery. MRI should tell the tale.

That's good you got back in it again after your surgery. Yup... mri says it all. Pretty much playing the waiting game, until I see the specialist & see what he has to say
 
TB 500 and Peg MGF?


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I don't know buddy. He explained it to me, but I can't remember all the medical talk. I still have to get the copy of the mri. I will ask the guy when I go in for my next appointment the exact terms & find out what my options are. I will keep you all updated. Apparently, he is a very busy man, so I have to wait about a month before I can see him
 
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