Heavy flys

[mcgaret]

Been doing DC for a while and only using chest flys for streching. In between
DC and think I'm going to throw in some HEAVY bench flys. They seem to
give me size - or mabey it just shapes the chest and it looks bigger.
Anyone else do HEAVY flys? (hope my shoulder holds up!!)

 

[Presser]

Yeah But I Never Do Flat Flys I Only Do Incline Flys, Warm Up With 60's Then Do 85's 100's And Then 2 Sets Of 120's, And Yes Deep And Proper

 

[bigworm6]

I would have no shoulders left doing that kinda weight press, but of course your a few pounds heavier than me lol. But i do flat bench flies for the stretch at the end of my workout, doesnt take much weight to get that stretch/burn holding it for 30 to 60 secs.

 

[Presser]

I would have no shoulders left doing that kinda weight press, but of course your a few pounds heavier than me lol. But i do flat bench flies for the stretch at the end of my workout, doesnt take much weight to get that stretch/burn holding it for 30 to 60 secs.

for some reason bro i cant do good flat bench flys well, i wish i could, and i couldnt agree with ya more bro it doesnt take much weight to get a good routine in just proper form like u said, but damn bro i couldnt hold shit for 60 seconds,or my arm would fall off,lol

 

[dreww]

I never liked flys, they never felt right. Even the fly-type machines feel like crap.
I just learned how to actually do presses correctly.

 

[saudades]

Flyes. Now there's an exercise I really should be doing more. I keep hearing how the stretch part of it really helps the muscle to grow, and if I'd just do them long enough, maybe I'd find that out, lol.

 

[h8tr3d]

Yeah But I Never Do Flat Flys I Only Do Incline Flys, Warm Up With 60's Then Do 85's 100's And Then 2 Sets Of 120's, And Yes Deep And Proper

120's?! Thats some weight there big fella! Im lucky if i end on 70's

 

[DB006]

the risk/reward of doing 120 pound db flyes isnt that appealing. that is equivalent to 120 incline press. and there obviously a ceiling on how heavy you can do flyes safely. and we all know heavier weights make you GROW. show me a man pressing the 160-180 for nice controlled reps, ill show you a man with a huge chest. IMO of course.

 

[teedubgee]

Yeah, I have to agree. I don't go heavy on flys cuz they're just too damn risky. I may be able to control a heavy amount of weight, but if anything goes wrong I'm fucked. I see dudes going as heavy as they could go for maybe 5 or 6 reps, when they would probably benefit much more devoting that strength and energy to a normal db press with a heavier weight. When I do flys, it's in a much higher rep range.

 

[Presser]

the risk/reward of doing 120 pound db flyes isnt that appealing. that is equivalent to 120 incline press. and there obviously a ceiling on how heavy you can do flyes safely. and we all know heavier weights make you GROW. show me a man pressing the 160-180 for nice controlled reps, ill show you a man with a huge chest. IMO of course.

i agree about risk reward if ther 120's were killing ya to get em done, but the 120's are done tighht and controled, i personaly wouldnt do any weight that would potentialy harm me, for me they arent even that heavy in all honesty

 

[teedubgee]

for me they arent even that heavy in all honesty

Damn, must be nice

 

[Presser]

Damn, must be nice

lol, believe me bro, i have weak points just like everyone else, it just so happens i am extremly strong doing incline bench and flys, but if you seen some of my other lifts you might wonder how come i was so weak,lol

 

[dreww]

i agree about risk reward if ther 120's were killing ya to get em done, but the 120's are done tighht and controled, i personaly wouldnt do any weight that would potentialy harm me, for me they arent even that heavy in all honesty

as I recall on ronnies training video, he did 200lbs db presses and then 100lb db flys.

he was struggling with the flys.

 

[saudades]

See now, I'm like that on tricep movements. If I can get that with my chest, I'll be loving it. Actually, I used to go as heavy as the 120 lb dumbbells for db presses (8 good reps), but as DB006 said, the heavier weights are risky. I decided that I was getting too much wear and tear than gains so I cut back. I think I'll start up the flyes again, but keep them tight and controlled like Presser does--I think that should boost my gains nicely.

 

[mcgaret]

Been a long time since heave flys - after incline bench I did about 3 sets of flat
flys and went up to 70's. Felt really good and easy. I didn't want to overdo it the
first time, other then my left shoulder which had
been hurting but held up. Think I'll try these for a while and see how they affect
my chest.

 

[saudades]

Did a good set of flyes the other day. Damn, was I sore after that--lasted three days!

 

[BiggerStronger]

I love me some incline bench and incline flys. I always go really heavy on the incline bench and semi-heavy on the incline flys. There is a real probability that you can tear your pectorial muscles by going too heavy on those. I always kept it in the 10-12 rep range for flys VS 6-8 rep range for heavy incline bench. Those are the only two chest movements I do and I've gained the most size and strength when I worked out the low volume, semi-high weight chest routine. Like DB said perfect form...Don't jerk the weights around especially with flys. I can just imagine my pec ripping off the bone from stretching my arms back with (too) heavy dumbells.