how to stay on

[DarksideDragon]

What are the bare essentials to stay on for a looong time? specifically how to manage hcg usage.. atm my balls look like 2 choclate covered raisins after just 8weeks and they hurt for some reason, so my question can you stay on and keep them in shape and how?(dosages) :wave:

 

[MrPerfect]

no idea, these REPS are very smart, someone should reply

 

[MMX2]

HCG will help, but what are you considering a long time and is bridging part of your supplementation or are you talking on ALL the time?
What dosages are we talking about?

 

[Get_Swole]

agree with mmx we gotta know more then what your telling us. You could run a gram for a long time or 1200 mg's for 12 weeks followed by a hrt dose then back to a gram or so. Let us knowa little more about your plan and we can help.

 

[supermannpc]

i like to stay on proviron full time

also someone pull up my thread about PCT, its a good read

 

[Crazymank]

HCG is great. I didnt shut down at all while taking a gram of test per week, 50mgs of anadrol ed, 600mgs of deca, I think there was some d-bol in there too.

I have to tell you though, every long cycle I’ve ever been on ends up sucking in the end. By long cycle, I mean beyond 16 weeks. I’ve always experienced that the gains go flat, your size goes flat, and the intensity just isn’t what it was when you peaked. Every long cycle I started to question whether my gear is counterfeit at the end. You will find at that point that you can add more to the amounts your taking, but the gains will remain minimal. You also start to become lethargic cause your body is getting tired of processing. At some point you need to have your blood checked. If you don’t, your driving in the dark without headlights.

Short, fast acting esters is the way to go. Cycle length from 8-10 weeks. Your body doesn’t shut down, its less taxing on your system. You don’t have to wait as long before you can start up again.

 

[DarksideDragon]

Thanks for the replys guys some good feedback there my current cycle is

Test E 500mg/wk started it with dbol 40mg for 4weeks, in week 8 now i was planning on adding in tren E or deca but my balls cant handle anything past week 6-7 and their gone! i normally stick to the short esters thought id try a long 1 this time but i think il come 'off' as the pain in my nads is gettin to me + alil gyno

I no theres debate about this but whats the score with running hcg thro PCT should have 5000iu on monday and what sort of dosage any tips would be appreciated

thanks :thumbsup:

DD

 

[DarksideDragon]

Thanks for that good advice bro iv bin hitting 40mg nolva everyday and that seems to have kept gyno under control and alil bit on the atrophy too. :thumbsup:

 

[justintempler]

......but whats the score with running hcg thro PCT.......

DD

HCG should be running during cycle not during PCT.
Your body will never make Test on it's own if you short circuit it by telling it to make Test with HCG. As long as you are taking HCG your body thinks it has enough LH.

 

[Crazymank]

im doing my current pct-cold turkey. No clo, novla, anything...

So far (2months) so good. My balls look like peanuts, but other than that... i feel completley normal. Even making small gains to lifts at the gym. Big thing is if i make it 4 months+. I have noticed depression and loss of strength at that point. But, I plan on going on a good 6 month GH/igf cycle in about a month.

 

[mikeswift]

all good responses... another thing to keep in mind with HCG is that it by itself can cause gyno so make sure you have Nolva on hand to combat that

 

[saudades]

Running IGF with HCG will work even better from what I have heard. The 'boys' will come back really fast if you use both.

 

[DarksideDragon]

Sorry for the dumb questions first time using hcg
All i got is 23g 1" pin on a 3ml barrel atm will this do for injecting hcg? ideally id like to pull up 0.1ml (500iu) but thats like nothing is it worth doing that? also do i only have to put hcg in fridge once iv mixed it up?

thanks
DD

 

[dreww]

what if someone were staying on, they would of course use hcg to keep the boys running/fired up. But would they still run nolvadex/clomid? would it be necessary?

if this was answered above and I missed it, well, post it again cause Im blind.

 

[Crazymank]

You need an anti-e when using hcg. So you need to run nolvadex or something. I found that when i used hcg, that i didnt need the clomid after my cycle.

 

[mikeswift]

all good responses... another thing to keep in mind with HCG is that it by itself can cause gyno so make sure you have Nolva on hand to combat that

I answered it right here for you dreww... you definitely need to have Nolva bro because HCG can cause gyno by itself

 

[DarksideDragon]

Sorry for the dumb questions first time using hcg
All i got is 23g 1" pin on a 3ml barrel atm will this do for injecting hcg? ideally id like to pull up 0.1ml (500iu) but thats like nothing is it worth doing that? also do i only have to put hcg in fridge once iv mixed it up?

thanks
DD

anyone?? :wave: :surprised

 

[mikeswift]

B2S seems to have answered your question best. Slin pins are the way to go and you can go either IM or SubQ but I prefer IM myself.

All i got is 23g 1" pin on a 3ml barrel atm will this do for injecting hcg?

I hope you mean you have 23g pins plural and not just one pin. Please respond.

 

[DarksideDragon]

B2S seems to have answered your question best. Slin pins are the way to go and you can go either IM or SubQ but I prefer IM myself.



I hope you mean you have 23g pins plural and not just one pin. Please respond.

lmao hey im not a freak guys lol im only new to hcg i no the rest lol
il give it a try with wat i got 1000iu if i can IM

DD

 

[Get_Swole]

lol i thought the same when you said that bro no offense to you at all but we get some strange ones around here lol. I dont know how you dont like the long esters man i hate the pain from prop etc. If i had a choice to choose anything and only that it would be test E baby i love it doesnt get any better .