Buffalo
MuscleChemistry Member
Exerpt from Article by Dr. Dan Gwartney
"Clearly, use of long-chain esters needs to be limited to long-term use in order to allow therapeutic (or anabolic) levels to accumulate. This is similar to the situation encountered with some familiar with AAS, such as nandrolone decanoate (Deca) and boldenone undecanoate (Equipoise). These AAS do not provide the rapid mass gains seen with orals or short-chain esters (acetate, propionate, etc.), in part because they are long-chain esters. Many users, accustomed to short six-to-eight-week cycles will report dissatisfaction with Deca or Equipoise, especially if they taper, due to the slow release. Post-cycle recovery is also much different with these drugs, as their suppressive effect persists for months in some cases, making it important to properly time hCG, Clomid or other drugs to restore natural testosterone production. Similar experiences can be expected with testosterone undecanoate. Finally, there is also greater difficulty in managing any adverse effect that might arise (irritability, hypomania, anger, aggression, gynecomastia, acne, hair loss, obstruction of the urine stream due to prostate growth, etc.), as elevated androgen levels will persist for weeks."
This goes with me supporting long 16+ week cycles of anything that has longer esters and continuing on cycle with testosterone for at least for another two weeks after stopping long ester use to avoid androgen build up.
"Clearly, use of long-chain esters needs to be limited to long-term use in order to allow therapeutic (or anabolic) levels to accumulate. This is similar to the situation encountered with some familiar with AAS, such as nandrolone decanoate (Deca) and boldenone undecanoate (Equipoise). These AAS do not provide the rapid mass gains seen with orals or short-chain esters (acetate, propionate, etc.), in part because they are long-chain esters. Many users, accustomed to short six-to-eight-week cycles will report dissatisfaction with Deca or Equipoise, especially if they taper, due to the slow release. Post-cycle recovery is also much different with these drugs, as their suppressive effect persists for months in some cases, making it important to properly time hCG, Clomid or other drugs to restore natural testosterone production. Similar experiences can be expected with testosterone undecanoate. Finally, there is also greater difficulty in managing any adverse effect that might arise (irritability, hypomania, anger, aggression, gynecomastia, acne, hair loss, obstruction of the urine stream due to prostate growth, etc.), as elevated androgen levels will persist for weeks."
This goes with me supporting long 16+ week cycles of anything that has longer esters and continuing on cycle with testosterone for at least for another two weeks after stopping long ester use to avoid androgen build up.
